Kansas Crimson

Hang Mike Pence and he can't certify the election.

They are rubes. Consider what got them there in the first place.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:49 am Hang Mike Pence and he can't certify the election.

Nope. Pence couldn't because he'd be dead. But someone else could and would.

Attempting to disrupt the transition of power is an attempt to overthrow the government. Whether it was a well thought out attempt with a high probability of success is irrelevant.

No it's not.

Overthrowing the government is not the same as disrupting "transition of power".

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:21 pm No it's not.

Overthrowing the government is not the same as disrupting "transition of power".

JFC

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:26 am I still don't understand how they were planning to "overthrow" the government by breaking into and vandalizing the capital? It was a riot. Not an attempt to overthrow the government imo.

Charging a building filled with politicians that are there to certify an election...screaming to murder and hang Democrats as well as uncooperative 'Pubs.....just doesn't quite fullfil your requirements of an attempt to overthrow the government?

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:10 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:26 am I still don't understand how they were planning to "overthrow" the government by breaking into and vandalizing the capital? It was a riot. Not an attempt to overthrow the government imo.

Charging a building filled with politicians that are there to certify an election...screaming to murder and hang Democrats as well as uncooperative 'Pubs.....just doesn't quite fullfil your requirements of an attempt to overthrow the government?

No because that can't result in overthrowing the government. It's just not how it works.

You might need to look up the word attempt. I don't think likelihood of succeeding is part of it. In fact, it may be the opposite.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:49 pm You might need to look up the word attempt. I don't think likelihood of succeeding is part of it. In fact, it may be the opposite.

They could have stormed the building, killed everyone inside of it, and held/occupied the building until this very day and they STILL wouldn't have "overthrown the government". The main reason is that none of that results in taking control of the government and military, which would be required to qualify as "overthrowing the government".

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:31 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:49 pm You might need to look up the word attempt. I don't think likelihood of succeeding is part of it. In fact, it may be the opposite.

They could have stormed the building, killed everyone inside of it, and held/occupied the building until this very day and they STILL wouldn't have "overthrown the government". The main reason is that none of that results in taking control of the government and military, which would be required to qualify as "overthrowing the government".

You are, once again, splitting hairs and choosing the outcome to fit your views.

None of us knows how it would have turned out if these terrorists were succesful.

It is, however, not difficult to see who have would up in power.

It was a fucking coup attempt, no matter how many shades of doubt you and the other mouth breathers try to throw at it.

The terrorists weren't going to end up in power. Sorry. Just not an outcome that could have happened. Zero chance.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:02 pm The terrorists weren't going to end up in power. Sorry. Just not an outcome that could have happened. Zero chance.

The terrorists aren't the ones that were trying to wrestle the power.

JFC, you truly are fucking stupid.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:31 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:49 pm You might need to look up the word attempt. I don't think likelihood of succeeding is part of it. In fact, it may be the opposite.

They could have stormed the building, killed everyone inside of it, and held/occupied the building until this very day and they STILL wouldn't have "overthrown the government". The main reason is that none of that results in taking control of the government and military, which would be required to qualify as "overthrowing the government".

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Zero chance.

They could occupy the building forever. Trump could live there, and tweet from there and call himself head dipshit in charge, BUT that STILL doesn't equal overthrowing the government.

Coup d'état, also called coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. The chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:07 pm Zero chance.

They could occupy the building forever. Trump could live there, and tweet from there and call himself head dipshit in charge, BUT that STILL doesn't equal overthrowing the government.

Nice to see the village idiot once again arguing an unwinnable point to oblivion.

You haven't lost a step.

I think you've probably had too many beers already today. Maybe have some food and a glass of water.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:10 pm I think you've probably had too many beers already today. Maybe have some food and a glass of water.

Swing and a miss, once again.

I'll just take your word for it. Hope your day gets better.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:13 pm I'll just take your word for it. Hope your day gets better.

Yeah, I guess I should learn to ignore complete idiots spouting bullshit simply to keep thier arguements rolling.

Getting ready to fire up some Dope Lemon, sip a Manhattan, and jump in the pool.

Have a good evening, shit for brains.