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Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:41 am
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:37 am
I've seen it all over the place. The tide is turning. America is turning on biden and the establishment
Alexa, show me an example of Stockholm Syndrome.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:44 am
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:37 am
I've seen it all over the place. The tide is turning. America is turning on biden and the establishment
It's a shame that the GOP has been unable to capitalize on the situation and offer up any preferable platform or candidates.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:51 am
by KUTradition
America is turning on Biden?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -7383.html
maybe randy’s circle…America as a whole seems to be trending differently
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:54 am
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:28 am
This political harassment of trump is backfiring on the democrats. Everyone sees it for what it is. (Except a few obedient internet liberals)
Inner city Atlanta chanting "free trump"
That's so funny. You seem to misuse the word "everyone" a lot.
People also shouted "free OJ" when he drove by; it doesn't mean that he wasn't a murderer. A few people of unknown race or motivations yelling "Free Trump" within earshot of a video being taken of a group of people mostly just standing around watching the massive parade of vehicles through their neighborhood doesn't mean that he has a ton of black supporters in inner city Atlanta.
Ever wonder how this specific video happens to end up in the possession of someone like Benny Johnson? Guys like these have a whole network of people they coordinate with in hotspots like that providing them the video that they want shown. You only seem to recognize media bias and propaganda when it is against your beliefs.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:55 am
by jfish26
Anything can happen I guess.
But Trump, with Russia thumbing the scale, lost the popular vote in 2016.
Then he lost by more in 2020.
Then Dobbs happened, and subsequent elections have tilted further over to the left.
And now Trump is more or less dead to rights on soon-to-be-in-excess-of-100 felony counts, and robbing donors dry for money that will go to lawyers, not campaigning for himself or other R candidates.
So I would not think his electoral outlook is very rosy at all.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:12 pm
by Overlander
7 people standing on the side of the street is a “movement”?
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:14 pm
by jfish26
Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:12 pm
7 people standing on the side of the street is a “movement”?
If 700,000 of the right people amplify it, sure.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:14 pm
by randylahey
Same polls said Hillary would win in a landslide. It's a psychological trick. Manipulate poll data. Convince people to be on the "winning side"
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:15 pm
by KUTradition
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:14 pm
Same polls said Hillary would win in a landslide. It's a psychological trick. Manipulate poll data. Convince people to be on the "winning side"
so show me whatever evidence you’ve got that the opposite is true
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:17 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:15 pm
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:14 pm
Same polls said Hillary would win in a landslide. It's a psychological trick. Manipulate poll data. Convince people to be on the "winning side"
so show me whatever evidence you’ve got that the opposite is true
It’s, ah,
something that the only tangible example Randy can hang his hat on…required Russia thumbing the scale eleven days before an election.
Edit for context:
It’s, ah,
something that the only tangible example Randy (who lives in right wing social media echo chambers) can hang his hat on…required Russia (adept at seeding things in right wing social media echo chambers) thumbing the scale eleven days before an election.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:17 pm
by KUTradition
i like how the 2020 polls (predicting a Biden win) are never mentioned
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:17 pm
by Overlander
randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:14 pm
Same polls said Hillary would win in a landslide. It's a psychological trick. Manipulate poll data. Convince people to be on the "winning side"
So, Trump ISN’T leading the GOP by 60%?
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:27 pm
by randylahey
Another major concern for biden. If enough Americans pay attention, thanks to his climate agenda, the rest of the world is rallying around brics and switching away from the American dollar on his watch.
Which eventually have major affects on our standard of living
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:27 pm
by KUTradition
… the rest of the world is rallying around brics and switching away from the American dollar on his watch.
lol, that’s hardly the case
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:34 pm
by Sparko
Sleepy decrepit Joe. If it wasn't for his guile and malefactory brilliance, we would be rid of him. And the great economic numbers. And the manufacturing resurgence. And the infrastructure improvements. And the success in unifying NATO and supporting the survival of Ukraine. So much to dislike. Even Wall Street is doing well. Damn it.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:41 pm
by ousdahl
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:44 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:37 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:34 am
That doesn't seem to be the case.
Huh?
I dunno bro, considering how quickly the majority of Americans have gleefully chugged the “stand with Ukraine” propaganda, I think the US actually being invaded would bring the folks together even faster than 9/11 did.
Defunding Ukraine was a major talking point in the last GOP Presidential Debate and our continued support of them has been a consistent complaint by most GOP politicians. It has not brough the nation together at all.
But yes, if the US itself was invaded then that would be entirely different.
Bear in mind tho, this debate is pushing two years after the war started.
When it did first start, there was a hell of a lot of yellow and blue flags flying high, and still are.
And tho pub politicians are casting doubt now, pretty sure pubs as a whole have overwhelmingly voted in lock step with the war machine when it’s come to more lethal aid for Ukraine.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:43 pm
by ousdahl
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:30 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:37 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:34 am
That doesn't seem to be the case.
the majority of Americans have gleefully chugged the “stand with Ukraine” propaganda
I’m not saying you’re a Putin mark. But the Putin marks sure talk like this.
God dammit.
We’ve been over this.
Again, fuck Putin.
And again:
What makes you so sure the “WMDS in Iraq” dipshits are suddenly playing us straight about “stand with Ukraine?”
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:45 pm
by ousdahl
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:27 pm
… the rest of the world is rallying around brics and switching away from the American dollar on his watch.
lol, that’s hardly the case
Considering how much American exceptionalism is displayed in, well, pretty much everything, this seems like it’s at least a difficult question to get a straight answer on.
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:11 pm
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:45 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:27 pm
… the rest of the world is rallying around brics and switching away from the American dollar on his watch.
lol, that’s hardly the case
Considering how much American exceptionalism is displayed in, well, pretty much everything, this seems like it’s at least a difficult question to get a straight answer on.
as is the norm for his posts, he’s deliberately misrepresenting the actual facts
don’t give him an out
he isn’t seeking anything resembling a reasonable discussion
Re: 2024
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:15 pm
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:43 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:30 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:37 am
the majority of Americans have gleefully chugged the “stand with Ukraine” propaganda
I’m not saying you’re a Putin mark. But the Putin marks sure talk like this.
God dammit.
We’ve been over this.
Again, fuck Putin.
And again:
What makes you so sure the “WMDS in Iraq” dipshits are suddenly playing us straight about “stand with Ukraine?”
My analysis would start with the fact that we're not acting on guesses (to whatever degree informed) about whether Russia attacked and invaded Ukraine?