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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:36 pm
by Cascadia
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:50 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:46 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:32 pm
Keep in mind, these new kits will not work for international travel including returning to the US. The only home kits that work for that require and include a telemedicine appointment to confirm the results. They are quite a bit more expensive (about $35 a piece).
The free ones also aren't likely to work for getting into a venue for a concert, event, etc.
Right. I'm using these for my own sense of security. All of my travel is domestic.
Gotcha. Pretty crazy we are almost 2 years in and we're just now getting access to free, convenient testing.
Yeah, agree that this aspect is frustrating.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:50 pm
by pdub
Whew.
I was worried for a second you'd pick b.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:08 pm
by zsn
I think he picked a because that’s the “correct” answer, knowing that it’s a truly theoretical exercise. Up the amount in b to $10k, or the actual cost of a, and watch Mich’s brain explode
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:28 pm
by ousdahl
I dunno you guys.
There’s a lot of fishable water in the Great Lakes state.
I mean shit have you even seen the upper peninsula?? Not many states have their own personal Canada!
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:09 am
by Cascadia
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:10 am
by ousdahl
Czechmate?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:12 am
by Cascadia
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:10 amCzechmate?
I laughed.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:30 am
by PhDhawk
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:33 am
by PhDhawk
More NY data showing the Omicron wave has peaked and is coming back down.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:37 am
by PhDhawk
Data from Nebraska
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:41 am
by PhDhawk
This is from Utah
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
by ousdahl
My anti-vaxxer fishing buddy (he got the vax last spring but has since proudly embraced antivax status ever since listening to a Joe Rogan podcast)
Anywho so he brought up “there have been like over 10,000 deaths just from vaccines, and the mainstream media won’t even talk about that!”
I point out I dunno where he got that over 10,000 number from. And what constitutes death by vax. If someone with cancer and a month to live gets a vax then dies a month later, does that count?
But I say, put that all aside either way. Even if there have been over 10,000 deaths (where, just in Merica?), out of over 200m vaxxes administered in Merica alone, isn’t that still a much better bet than the 858k in 68m chance you have (in the US) of dying from covid anyway?
He changed the subject to eating elk meat.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:48 am
by Deleted User 863
Is it true that something like 75% of deaths are people with 4 comorbidities?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 am
by Cascadia
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
My anti-vaxxer fishing buddy (he got the vax last spring but has since proudly embraced antivax status ever since listening to a Joe Rogan podcast)
Anywho so he brought up “there have been like over 10,000 deaths just from vaccines, and the mainstream media won’t even talk about that!”
I point out I dunno where he got that over 10,000 number from. And what constitutes death by vax. If someone with cancer and a month to live gets a vax then dies a month later, does that count?
But I say, put that all aside either way. Even if there have been over 10,000 deaths (where, just in Merica?), out of over 200m vaxxes administered in Merica alone, isn’t that still a much better bet than the 858k in 68m chance you have (in the US) of dying from covid anyway?
He changed the subject to eating elk meat.
Elk meat is overrated.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:50 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
My anti-vaxxer fishing buddy (he got the vax last spring but has since proudly embraced antivax status ever since listening to a Joe Rogan podcast)
Anywho so he brought up “there have been like over 10,000 deaths just from vaccines, and the mainstream media won’t even talk about that!”
I point out I dunno where he got that over 10,000 number from. And what constitutes death by vax. If someone with cancer and a month to live gets a vax then dies a month later, does that count?
But I say, put that all aside either way. Even if there have been over 10,000 deaths (where, just in Merica?), out of over 200m vaxxes administered in Merica alone, isn’t that still a much better bet than the 858k in 68m chance you have (in the US) of dying from covid anyway?
He changed the subject to eating elk meat.
Good thing Cascadia isn't bothered by your imaginary friends/stories nearly as much as he's bothered by religous people believing in imaginary friends/stories. This place would really be a shit show.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:50 am
by PhDhawk
There have been 3 deaths directly linked to the vaccine. Those were the three people who died of blood clots after taking the J&J vaccine.
That's after 500,000,000 shots have been administered in the US.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:52 am
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
I point out I dunno where he got that over 10,000 number from. And what constitutes death by vax. If someone with cancer and a month to live gets a vax then dies a month later, does that count?
Do you think it should count if as a covid death if a person has cancer with a month to live and gets covid while in the hospital where they were already dying?
What constitutes death by covid?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:53 am
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:48 am
Is it true that something like 75% of deaths are people with 4 comorbidities?
No bro, this is Merica.
It has nothing to do with your obesity or diabeetus or high blood pressure or your tobacco habit or your preference for Big Macs or the fact you haven’t exercised since high school gym class, or even if you are currently covid positive.
It has everything to do with that microchip you got last spring.
I tried to told you so!
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:53 am
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:52 am
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:46 am
I point out I dunno where he got that over 10,000 number from. And what constitutes death by vax. If someone with cancer and a month to live gets a vax then dies a month later, does that count?
Do you think it should count if as a covid death if a person has cancer with a month to live and gets covid while in the hospital where they were already dying?
If they’re vaxxed, no of course not.
If they ain’t, I told you so.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:56 am
by PhDhawk
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:48 am
Is it true that something like 75% of deaths are people with 4 comorbidities?
No
https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2TS0S2
That number is true for vaccinated people who died from the virus, not the unvaccinated or total population according to CDC director Walensky.
It shows how effective the vaccines are, that you have to be in pretty bad shape for the virus to win.
It was based on this study:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/ ... 21-DM72953
