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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:21 pm
by Cascadia
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:41 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:30 pm
I’m trying to figure out what the truth is. Facts lose their power when the population loses faith in the people disseminating them. I don’t trust Brandon or Fauci or Tedros, thus I feel iffy about what they say.
Note also that I made my point without personally attacking or insulting you. You should try it sometime.
You're trying to figure out what the truth is regarding his claim? Great news, someone already looked into every alleged case for you.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/12/scich ... -vaccines/
You're talking to someone who thinks it's polite to insult people as long as you only do it behind their backs.
And anonymously
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:23 pm
by JKLivin
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:41 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:25 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:30 pm
I’m trying to figure out what the truth is. Facts lose their power when the population loses faith in the people disseminating them. I don’t trust Brandon or Fauci or Tedros, thus I feel iffy about what they say.
Note also that I made my point without personally attacking or insulting you. You should try it sometime.
You're trying to figure out what the truth is regarding his claim? Great news, someone already looked into every alleged case for you.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/12/scich ... -vaccines/
You're talking to someone who thinks it's polite to insult people as long as you only do it behind their backs.
Says the guy who tells people he’s never met to f-off. Grow up. Seriously.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:11 pm
by PhDhawk
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:23 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:41 pm
You're talking to someone who thinks it's polite to insult people as long as you only do it behind their backs.
Says the guy who tells people he’s never met to f-off. Grow up. Seriously.
You're a clown. You pretend to try to take some high moral ground, but you're a weasel. You are exactly the type of coward who is polite to someone's face and then talks shit about them behind their back. I'd feel ashamed if I was like that, you seem to take pride in it.
I'd much rather tell someone to fuck off and mean it than be the kind of chickenshit you are.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:12 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
To recap, JK has basically told us that he would have said "Nice to meet" you to Hitler in 1944 but would snap at a 10 year old child who addressed him as Mister Psych and respond, "IT'S DOCTOR/PROFESSOR PSYCH YOU OVER THE TOP DISRESPECTFUL SNOTTY KID".
Moving on....
If I have Covid (I don't believe I currently do) and I purposely pass it on to other people, what if any legal ramifications WOULD I face?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:03 am
by JKLivin
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:11 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:23 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:41 pm
You're talking to someone who thinks it's polite to insult people as long as you only do it behind their backs.
Says the guy who tells people he’s never met to f-off. Grow up. Seriously.
You're a clown. You pretend to try to take some high moral ground, but you're a weasel. You are exactly the type of coward who is polite to someone's face and then talks shit about them behind their back. I'd feel ashamed if I was like that, you seem to take pride in it.
I'd much rather tell someone to fuck off and mean it than be the kind of chickenshit you are.
Message board tough guy. The ultimate cliche’. Thanks for making my point.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:54 am
by Cascadia
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:12 am
To recap, JK has basically told us that he would have said "Nice to meet" you to Hitler in 1944 but would snap at a 10 year old child who addressed him as Mister Psych and respond, "IT'S DOCTOR/PROFESSOR PSYCH YOU OVER THE TOP DISRESPECTFUL SNOTTY KID".
JK is a big Hitler fan.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:02 pm
by PhDhawk
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:04 pm
by PhDhawk
Claims that COVID death figures are inflated by counting those who died ‘with, not from’ the virus are premised on false assertions
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2 ... eath-toll/
Research shows overall deaths associated with COVID-19 have been undercounted, not overcounted, in the U.S. since the start of the pandemic.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:03 am
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:10 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:06 pm
Greatest passing point guard of all time. Never one to back down from a fight. I wouldn’t bet against him.
What a ridiculous response.
Also, you could have made a ton of money betting against Aaron Rodgers's dumb ass last night.
Meh. I can’t stand Rogers. I was glad he lost last night.
I grew up pretending to be Stockton on the hoop behind my house. Admired his scrappiness and intensity.
I have no idea if his claims are true. I do miss the days when people could express their opinions without being vilified, though. This country has become a scary place.
But Stockton is not stating his opinion. He is stating facts that as it turns out, are not facts at all but just another idiotic batch of lies created solely to keep people like him ignorant. Saying that all of these athletes are dying right on the field is an attempt to state a fact, not an "opinion".
You stated that you were "trying to figure out what the truth was". Did you research anything about his claims? What were the results of that research? Did you read the factcheck article provided by another user here? What is your opinion of that article?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:14 am
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:03 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:19 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:10 pm
What a ridiculous response.
Also, you could have made a ton of money betting against Aaron Rodgers's dumb ass last night.
Meh. I can’t stand Rogers. I was glad he lost last night.
I grew up pretending to be Stockton on the hoop behind my house. Admired his scrappiness and intensity.
I have no idea if his claims are true. I do miss the days when people could express their opinions without being vilified, though. This country has become a scary place.
But Stockton is not stating his opinion. He is stating facts that as it turns out, are not facts at all but just another idiotic batch of lies created solely to keep people like him ignorant. Saying that all of these athletes are dying right on the field is an attempt to state a fact, not an "opinion".
You stated that you were "trying to figure out what the truth was". Did you research anything about his claims? What were the results of that research? Did you read the factcheck article provided by another user here? What is your opinion of that article?
I read the article. I am still looking at the political/philosophical underpinnings of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that funded it.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:35 am
by Mjl
It has links to all the primary sources.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:38 am
by MICHHAWK
i will listen to john stockton talk china fungus just as much as i will listen to the wastepaperbasket. they will get equal time.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:50 am
by pdub
why is the wastepaperbasket called that and why is it alloneword?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 am
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:14 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:03 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:19 pm
Meh. I can’t stand Rogers. I was glad he lost last night.
I grew up pretending to be Stockton on the hoop behind my house. Admired his scrappiness and intensity.
I have no idea if his claims are true. I do miss the days when people could express their opinions without being vilified, though. This country has become a scary place.
But Stockton is not stating his opinion. He is stating facts that as it turns out, are not facts at all but just another idiotic batch of lies created solely to keep people like him ignorant. Saying that all of these athletes are dying right on the field is an attempt to state a fact, not an "opinion".
You stated that you were "trying to figure out what the truth was". Did you research anything about his claims? What were the results of that research? Did you read the factcheck article provided by another user here? What is your opinion of that article?
I read the article. I am still looking at the political/philosophical underpinnings of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that funded it.
So you're trying to find a reason not to believe it. Got it.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:52 am
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:28 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:14 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:03 am
But Stockton is not stating his opinion. He is stating facts that as it turns out, are not facts at all but just another idiotic batch of lies created solely to keep people like him ignorant. Saying that all of these athletes are dying right on the field is an attempt to state a fact, not an "opinion".
You stated that you were "trying to figure out what the truth was". Did you research anything about his claims? What were the results of that research? Did you read the factcheck article provided by another user here? What is your opinion of that article?
I read the article. I am still looking at the political/philosophical underpinnings of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation that funded it.
So you're trying to find a reason not to believe it. Got it.
I prefer to reserve judgment until I feel reasonably sure that the numbers are being reported and presented honestly. I’d call that a healthy skepticism. PhD would call it being an idiot. I guess time will tell.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:55 am
by MICHHAWK
for sure the numbers that are being tossed around regarding all things china fungus, are not accurate.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:59 am
by PhDhawk
I've gotten several grants.
You know who's never shown up in my lab, never tried to influence my research, never had a say in what or where I published my research? The granting agency. Not once. They've never told me what I can/can't or should/shouldn't publish.
This notion that funding agencies are influencing research is just not something I have experienced nor have any of my colleagues at the several places I've worked. Maybe it happens, but I haven't seen it, whether the funding is private or public.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:00 pm
by PhDhawk
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:55 am
for sure the numbers that are being tossed around regarding all things china fungus, are not accurate.
So, everything everyone is saying is inaccurate? got it.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:12 pm
by PhDhawk
Put politics aside for a minute.
The global media has been pretty quick to scrutinize any issues with any covid19 vaccines.
The media jumped all over the very rare cases of blood clotting from the J&J vaccine, that resulted in 3 deaths.
The media was quick to report that the mRNA vaccines have "likely association" with myocarditis, even though most cases are mild and short in duration and there has never been a direct causal link established between the two.
So, if the media reported on those rare and often mild events, you really think they'd be sleeping on HUNDREDS of professional athletes dying in the prime of their life from a vaccine? Does that even seem rational?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:29 pm
by Cascadia
Yes, that’s completely rational to the QOP and Fox News consumers