Is this what returning to life as usual in America means?
The Democratic majority leader of the Colorado State Senate, Stephen Fenberg, suggested as much, and I’m not taking issue with it or him. Quite the opposite. He’s gut-wrenchingly right, and his words, like every one of those 18 victims, should give us enormous pause and fill us with even more shame.
Fenberg was sizing up the situation on Brian Williams’s show on MSNBC late Monday night. This is precisely what he said: “We have had a horrific year as a country, as a world. It has finally started to feel like things are getting back to ‘normal.’ And, unfortunately, I think that we are reminded — that includes mass shootings.”
I think differently than most people. I'm wondering when the ironic happens.
Someone who loses a child and/or loved one to gun violence gets a hold of an AR-15 and decides to start shooting US Republican Congress people in or outside the US Capitol and then screams now do you give a fuck and want to do something in regards to stricter gun laws?
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:27 pm
by Deleted User 89
Grandma wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:27 pm
I think differently than most people. I'm wondering when the ironic happens.
Someone who loses a child and/or loved one to gun violence gets a hold of an AR-15 and decides to start shooting US Republican Congress people in or outside the US Capitol and then screams now do you give a fuck and want to do something in regards to stricter gun laws?
i'm actually a bit surprised it hasn't happened yet
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:46 pm
by defixione
That action wouldn't change gun laws. The Rs would have a public hanging and hang the shooter two or three times that day.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:51 pm
by ousdahl
They’d gaslight us, and say the real tragedy to be outraged about is that it was some lib starting trouble to try to take away mah rights.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:59 am
by jfish26
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:51 pm
They’d gaslight us, and say the real tragedy to be outraged about is that it was some lib starting trouble to try to take away mah rights.
This isn’t a hypothetical. Hundreds of people who tend to have a lot in common with your typical mass shooter occupied the Capitol ten or so weeks ago, and came within seconds/minutes of probably kidnapping/killing members of Congress and possibly the Vice President.
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:09 am
by Deleted User 289
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:03 am
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Sincerely not trying to minimize it by asking this.
Why do some people only care about gun violence and/or become "outraged" if there is a "mass" shooting?
To me, 100 separate shootings of a single innocent victim is 100 too many.
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:03 am
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Sincerely not trying to minimize it by asking this.
Why do some people only care about gun violence and/or become "outraged" if there is a "mass" shooting?
To me, 100 separate shootings of a single innocent victim is 100 too many.
It's not that people "only" care about mass shootings. I just think they sit differently with people because of how random they are and how they happen in places where random people like myself are more likely to be.
To me it's because because they are easier to see myself as a potential victim. My day to day life does not put me in a position where I could realistically be the victim of an individual shooting. There's no through traffic in my neighborhood. I don't live near or go to places where people who perpetuate gun violence against individuals tend to be, especially in the evenings. My life doesn't involve people who perpetuate gun crimes on others that I know of. It's just something that is not really a concern to me personally.
But some random dude going kooky and shooting up a grocery store, office building or other random public location? I go to the grocery store and an office building all the time.
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:03 am
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Sincerely not trying to minimize it by asking this.
Why do some people only care about gun violence and/or become "outraged" if there is a "mass" shooting?
To me, 100 separate shootings of a single innocent victim is 100 too many.
agree completely
i feel similarly about kids versus adults. why is a kid’s life more valuable, and their death more tragic? a life is a life
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:03 am
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Sincerely not trying to minimize it by asking this.
Why do some people only care about gun violence and/or become "outraged" if there is a "mass" shooting?
To me, 100 separate shootings of a single innocent victim is 100 too many.
It's not that people "only" care about mass shootings. I just think they sit differently with people because of how random they are and how they happen in places where random people like myself are more likely to be.
To me it's because because they are easier to see myself as a potential victim. My day to day life does not put me in a position where I could realistically be the victim of an individual shooting. There's no through traffic in my neighborhood. I don't live near or go to places where people who perpetuate gun violence against individuals tend to be, especially in the evenings. My life doesn't involve people who perpetuate gun crimes on others that I know of. It's just something that is not really a concern to me personally.
But some random dude going kooky and shooting up a grocery store, office building or other random public location? I go to the grocery store and an office building all the time.
And that's it, Grandma living in the city should understand the dynamic. Living in the hood in a city you get accustomed to gunfire at night, shootings are common. But you understand that most of it is two criminal elements having a dispute. It's like when you hear two cats fighting in the alley, there will be bloodshed but it won't involve you, they've got no beef with you. The only time gunshots struck real fear in me was when a fired coworker showed up at work one night carrying a gun. He shot the place up and we all ran like hell. We had no idea it was coming, we just were doing our job and going through the motions of our day. And then all hell broke lose and we were running for our lives. Luckily he was stumbling drunk and carrying a rifle, we saw him before he got too close. That is the shit that scares me, the shit you can't see coming.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:22 am
by PhDhawk
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:03 am
and we have a 3rd mass shooting in the last two weeks
4 dead in Orange, CA
Is this the strongest indicator that we're coming out of the pandmemic?