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Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:55 pm**

Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:07 pm I think he should be in jail... But what he's doing now is the right thing to do, and not the easiest and not in his best interest, so kudos are deserved.

Basically had these options:
1. Act like the hero the right was making him out to be.
2. Disappear, don't take any media appearances. Right wing would prop him up as a hero, and project onto him anything they want.
3. Go on right wing media and tell people he's not a hero and regrets what he did.

1 and 2 could very likely lead to a very dangerous atmosphere, as if it's not enough already. Good for him for choosing 3.

Actually might even be better than if did get convicted - he'd become a martyr.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:22 am I am at least somewhat glad that, at least for the time being, Rittenhouse does not appear to want to take the easy road and become a MAGA mascot.

About that.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:04 pm**

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:55 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:07 pm I think he should be in jail... But what he's doing now is the right thing to do, and not the easiest and not in his best interest, so kudos are deserved.

Basically had these options:
1. Act like the hero the right was making him out to be.
2. Disappear, don't take any media appearances. Right wing would prop him up as a hero, and project onto him anything they want.
3. Go on right wing media and tell people he's not a hero and regrets what he did.

1 and 2 could very likely lead to a very dangerous atmosphere, as if it's not enough already. Good for him for choosing 3.

Actually might even be better than if did get convicted - he'd become a martyr.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:22 am I am at least somewhat glad that, at least for the time being, Rittenhouse does not appear to want to take the easy road and become a MAGA mascot.

About that.

That would be disappointing.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 2:08 pm**

But, fully expected
Even if he wants no part of this, he is in deep

I assume he will speak at the RNC right after the gun wielding St Louis couple?

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:50 pm**

I believed him when he made those comments a few weeks ago....but he's probably being offered life changing amounts of money. And for a guy who probably needs to milk this for some dollars and then disappear forever to some secluded house in the woods, i am sure the money is hard to pass up.

Posted: **Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:04 pm**

Let's review. The kid grabbed a "semi automatic" that his friend provided for him, decided to go to a protest/riot and ACT like a super hero medic trying to protect the world (actually a business), shot some people partially because they didn't like and were possibly fearful that a 17 year old with a gun was walking the streets after curfew during a "riot", then he was labeled a hero because he shot them, went to court with a better legal team than the clown prosecutor/s, claimed self defense and convinced a jury of it, and is now making some serious money because of all of that.
Is that about right?

Seems not too many people give a damn about the precedent that this may be setting but hey, God bless America - and the 2nd amendment - and how it's interpreted by a lot of assholes in 2021.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:42 pm**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:04 pm Let's review. The kid grabbed a "semi automatic" that his friend provided for him, decided to go to a protest/riot and ACT like a super hero medic trying to protect the world (actually a business), shot some people partially because they didn't like and were possibly fearful that a 17 year old with a gun was walking the streets after curfew during a "riot", then he was labeled a hero because he shot them, went to court with a better legal team than the clown prosecutor/s, claimed self defense and convinced a jury of it, and is now making some serious money because of all of that.
Is that about right?

Seems not too many people give a damn about the precedent that this may be setting but hey, God bless America - and the 2nd amendment - and how it's interpreted by a lot of assholes in 2021.

Thankfully, violating your sense of decency is still not a crime in this country. The kid did not break the law. It was a just verdict, despite the assertions of the Woke Mob.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:13 pm**

Not guilty =/= innocent

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm**

Not guilty = Did not break the law.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:28 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm Not guilty = Did not break the law.

Lol

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:12 pm**

sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:28 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm Not guilty = Did not break the law.
Lol

JK's a special kind of dumb.

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:15 pm**

Cascadia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:12 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:28 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm Not guilty = Did not break the law.
Lol
JK's a special kind of dumb.

So, the legal system is null and void if it disagrees with your personal notions of right and wrong? That’s a special kind of arrogance. Congrats!

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:29 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:15 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:12 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:28 pm

Lol
JK's a special kind of dumb.
So, the legal system is null and void if it disagrees with your personal notions of right and wrong? That’s a special kind of arrogance. Congrats!

No one said that

Posted: **Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:34 pm**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm Not guilty = Did not break the law.

Are you referring to Rittenhouse specifically or is that a statement that you feel is 100% true for everybody who has ever been accused of a crime, had "their day" in court, and was found not guilty?

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:05 am**

Just because something is technically legal doesn’t make it right, morally or ethically.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:19 am**

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:34 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:42 pm Not guilty = Did not break the law.
Are you referring to Rittenhouse specifically or is that a statement that you feel is 100% true for everybody who has ever been accused of a crime, had "their day" in court, and was found not guilty?

In a technical sense, it has to be true, or there’s no point in having a legal system and we should just go back to vigilantism as the accepted norm. I understand that people can be found not guilty who are pieces of garbage - O.J. Simpson immediately comes to mind - but I’m reserving judgment on Kyle Rittenhouse. He has a lot of life ahead of him.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 am**

I wonder what is the difference between Kyle and OJ?

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:55 am**

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:15 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:12 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:28 pm

Lol
JK's a special kind of dumb.
So, the legal system is null and void if it disagrees with your personal notions of right and wrong? That’s a special kind of arrogance. Congrats!

It doesn't take arrogance to find your statement ignorant because it is flat out not true. You can break the law and a prosecutor can fail to successfully prosecute the case against you. It happens all the time.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:55 am**

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 am I wonder what is the difference between Kyle and OJ?

Um, aside from the fact that O.J. was an adult, was a serial spousal abuser, and brutally murdered two people in cold blood who were no threat to him whatsoever? Nothing, I guess.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:56 am**

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:55 am
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:15 pm
Cascadia wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:12 pm

JK's a special kind of dumb.
So, the legal system is null and void if it disagrees with your personal notions of right and wrong? That’s a special kind of arrogance. Congrats!
It doesn't take arrogance to find your statement ignorant because it is flat out not true. You can break the law and a prosecutor can fail to successfully prosecute the case against you. It happens all the time.

And yet, legally, that person is not guilty and cannot face the same charges again.

Posted: **Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:57 am**

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 am I wonder what is the difference between Kyle and OJ?

I believe the correct answer is:

Kyle is white

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