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Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:16 pm
by AlOerter
randylahey wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:03 pm
AlOerter wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:53 pm Good enough to be starting point guard on the national championship team. His job wasn't to be the scorer.
Yes he was the a good fit next to the other guys and a good role player. In no way does that make him one of the best point guards in the nation tho. He could take a big step forward this year tho, we will see, but hes gotta improve that shot and add some playmaking

Much different players around him this season
I understand your point, I guess we just differ on what makes a great point guard. Some are good scorers, to be sure, but not always. I guess to me a point guard knows what he needs to do for his team to win and he does it. The scoring column always gets our attention but assists, defense, pushing the ball are important too.

I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time or the last) but he seems like a guy who will step up and do what we need when we need it. His improvement last year was huge and I'm hoping for more.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:43 pm
by randylahey
No I get what you are saying. Dajuan is a good true pass first point guard. Which is rare these days. I dont think big scoring numbers is what make a point guard good. Assists defense and running the offense are essential, and he's good at that. He's gonna help us win a lot of games the next couple years. He just helped us win a national championship

I just think he's lacking tools to be "one of the best point guards in the nation"
And those tools are a reliable jump shot and a quick first step

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:47 pm
by randylahey
Dajuan harris is basically Russell Robinson. I loved russ. He also helped us win a national championship. I think he was more talented than dajuan. Russell was never one of the best point guards in the country. But he was a very good role player

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:51 pm
by TDub
Self says he's one of the more underrated players in the country

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:23 pm
by ousdahl
Russ was a career .324 shooter on 296 attempts

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:20 pm
by AlOerter
Cedric Hunter. Not a even a good shooter. Awesome point guard on an awesome team.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:18 pm
by InfiniteJ

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:44 pm
by Sparko
AlOerter wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:20 pm Cedric Hunter. Not a even a good shooter. Awesome point guard on an awesome team.
Cedric could finish at the rim though.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:43 pm
by Mjl
Nice Dick pic

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:20 pm
by AlOerter
Mjl wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:43 pm
Nice Dick pic
I think I'm just going to refer to him as Gradey.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:07 pm
by ousdahl
it's exhibition early, but I think I've already said it anyway:

this team's ceiling is with Udeh.

He's the big old school 5 man Self loves

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:24 pm
by Deleted User 863
I don't think the 5 spot has much to do with our ceiling. Not in the sense that it "needs" to be 1 of them more than the others.

This team's ceiling is going to be determined by shooting.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:39 pm
by ousdahl
Who on this roster is most likely to be the recipient of the BMac/Och inbounds lob?

Prob either KJ or...Gradey?

actually, fuck it, let's say Yes.

how could you say no?

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:51 pm
by TDub
not gonna be yes

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:45 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I would need to watch again (sober), but I felt Zuby was a bigger positive than Udeh. Would not have guessed that at all this past summer.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:48 pm
by ousdahl
Yea, Zuby might have a better feel at this point. And good size and strong for a freshman

But Ernest a specimen

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:49 pm
by Sparko
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:45 pm I would need to watch again (sober), but I felt Zuby was a bigger positive than Udeh. Would not have guessed that at all this past summer.
Yeah.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:52 am
by Mjl
Zuby has a lot of Thomas Robinson in him.

Interesting that Clemence was a factor in the last Champion's Classic and didn't get off the bench in this one despite younger competition. I think his Kansas career ended last game when they ran that set play to Iso for him, clearing out an entire side of the floor to get him 1 on 1 at top of key against their slow-ass big dude. He made a jab step and launched (and clanked) a three. His value is supposed to be his ability to stretch the defense and score. If he can't do that against NDSU, he can't do it against better opposition.

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:57 am
by ousdahl
Pretty sure Clemence is out with a busted noggin

Re: 2022-2023 Lineup

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:21 am
by Mjl
Oh. welp, nevermind