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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:21 am
by pdub
"Thats the only way to logically piece it all together"

No.
An intelligent person considers it as a possibility but, because there isn't any solid evidence to support it ( and the hesitancy of China to cooperate obviously is a hindrance to this ), it cannot be confirmed as absolute.
This is how logic works. This is how science works.

I get it. It's difficult.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:09 am
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:21 am "Thats the only way to logically piece it all together"

No.
An intelligent person considers it as a possibility but, because there isn't any solid evidence to support it ( and the hesitancy of China to cooperate obviously is a hindrance to this ), it cannot be confirmed as absolute.
This is how logic works. This is how science works.

I get it. It's difficult.
China's unwillingness to cooperate also fits the narrative that covid quite possibly came from a lab

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:11 am
by MICHHAWK
until proven otherwise. the china fungus came from china.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:11 am
by pdub
Key word here is narrative.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:12 am
by pdub
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:11 am until proven otherwise. the china fungus came from china.
Well I think I can agree with that, sans the word fungus.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:14 am
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:11 am Key word here is narrative.
Correct. None of us here on this message board know anything for sure. But it's perfectly OK to speculate

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:15 am
by MICHHAWK
we're adults. we know damn well where the fungus came from.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:16 am
by pdub
Jesus dude.

"But it's perfectly OK to speculate"

Your words:

The question isn't "was the origin of covid19 a lab leak"
The question we should really be asking is "was the lab leak accidental or intentional?"

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:18 am
by MICHHAWK
we are talking about china. so anything is possible.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:21 am
by randylahey
pdub wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:16 am Jesus dude.

"But it's perfectly OK to speculate"

Your words:

The question isn't "was the origin of covid19 a lab leak"
The question we should really be asking is "was the lab leak accidental or intentional?"
Seems reasonable to speculate about that too

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:25 am
by pdub
Right.
But randy, in sequential comment after comment, isn't just speculating.
He's inferring ( or trying to ).

It's somewhat similar to if I went on a streak like this:
"I think 9/11 could have been an inside job."
"How did those buildings collapse like that? There are scientists that can't prove it."
"The question isn't that 9/11 was an inside job but whether Bush knew about it."

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:33 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:11 am until proven otherwise. the china fungus came from china.
Yeah, but how did the "fungus" leave China?
Until proven otherwise, I think I am going to assume Randy Marsh from South Park Colorado had something to do with it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:51 am
by StayCurious
zsn wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:13 am “It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt”.

You have no idea about mRNA technology or human trials or anything. You’re the kind of people who think they are astronauts because someone told you the story of the movie “Interstellar”. I’m not going to bother with the details of mRNA research (which goes back at least 30 years) because I would be wasting both of our time.
mRNA may have great potential one day in the future, but it's not even close to ready right now. They clearly said they were excited about this technology, because it came with huge money making potential. They wanted large group to test it on and they got it with the panic that covid came with. Vaccines are also a huge source of income for pharma, especially in kids.

“It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.”

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:27 pm
by zsn
I stand by my statement and your follow up post just reinforces my position that much more. I applied for a position at an mRNA company back in the early 90s, when I was looking for a job as a postdoc. Unless you’re commenting based on some inside knowledge about the industry…….

We used to joke in the late 80s-early 90s that mRNA and “antisense” therapies “would always be the therapies of the future”. It was the case until the liposome people came along and “found a problem for their solution”! That was happening even pre-SARS-CoV2. They just accelerated it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:39 pm
by StayCurious
I think what you mean is that you stubbornly refuse to admit that you're wrong about most of what you previously wrote. If mRNA shots worked so well, they would have prevented covid and prevented spread. But far more concerning are the potential for dangerous complications.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:40 pm
by KUTradition
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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:21 pm
by jhawks99
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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:21 pm
by KUTradition
ok, that’s pretty good

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:40 pm
by Overlander
How fucking hilarious is it to watch Psych flailing while claiming to know anything about mRNA?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:04 pm
by StayCurious
For Randy and any others...



"Explosive Video of Fauci, HHS in 2019 Plotting “Disruptive” New Outbreak in “China Somewhere” to “Blow the System Up” and Enforce Universal mRNA Vaccination"

Video is on the link (it's only about 2 minutes long)
https://newsrescue.com/explosive-video- ... ccination/