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Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pm
by MICHHAWK
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm
Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."
you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
by sdoyel
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.
These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
by sdoyel
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm
Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."
you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
When I have a pesky fly bothering me, I kill it. I don't let it keep buzzing around, annoying me...
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
just stop
none of what you said matters, despite your ad nauseum repetition
they had intent and attempt. that’s all that matters when it ones to insurrection and sedition. neither requires success
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:21 pm
by ousdahl
In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm
by Deleted User 89
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.
These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
all he does is miss the point, intentional or otherwise
hence the constant arguments and 15 posts saying the same thing
whether or not they succeeded DOES NOT MATTER
if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:24 pm
by Deleted User 863
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course it wasn’t coordinated. That’s why it wasn’t successful.
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.
These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
Maybe you're also missing the point?
According to evidence gathered by law the dumbfucks didn't gather there to "overthrow the government". They gathered there, in a mostly uncoordinated manner (other than date and time), to riot / vandalize / terrorize / and even kill politicians.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
by sdoyel
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:24 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:17 pm
It wasn't successful because that's not how it works. Those who control that building do not control our country/government/military. Those things are required to "overthrow the government".
You're missing the point.
These dumbfucks didn't know that. That's why they were there... They are too dumb to realize what they were doing wasn't going to be successful.
Maybe you're also missing the point?
According to evidence gathered by law the dumbfucks didn't gather there to "overthrow the government". They gathered there, in a mostly uncoordinated manner (other than date and time), to riot / vandalize / terrorize / and even kill politicians.
Log off.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm
if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.
An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.
Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
by Deleted User 89
i’ve not read anything that requires coordination
edit: though it’s been documented that at least some of them were in active communication during the event
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:27 pm
by TDub
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:20 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:19 pm
sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:15 pm
Look at the pathetic turnout for the far right wing rally. It’s over. Dead. Done.
yet you and your ilk continue to beat the drum that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for you in 2024."
you russian bots peddling your hysteria are the last to know.
When I have a pesky fly bothering me, I kill it. I don't let it keep buzzing around, annoying me...
You do?
then why do you still have Trumps face as your avatar?
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:29 pm
by MICHHAWK
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:21 pm
In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
the gop knows darn well dt won't get a sniff of 2024.
it's the dems that need to push that narrative to keep the flock hysterical.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:30 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
i’ve not read anything that requires coordination
edit: though it’s been documented that at least some of them were in active communication during the event
Yes about a few dozen of them from what I have read today. And they are being charged more harshly.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:31 pm
by ousdahl
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:29 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:21 pm
In a way, I think the ones most vulnerable to the orange man and his army of white supremacists in 2024, are the GOP
the gop knows darn well dt won't get a sniff of 2024.
it's the dems that need to push that narrative to keep the flock hysterical.
The gop didn’t expect dt to get a sniff of 2016 either
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:32 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm
the constant arguments and 15 posts saying the same thing
I think that's about the 15th time you've said that line or something similar.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:33 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm
if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.
An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.
Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
For this plane analogy to work, you’d have to assume something like, that in the cockpit the airline bored of directors were finalizing the details on appointing a new chairman.
It’s a more nuanced than simply harassing the pilot and copilot
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:34 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:33 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:26 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:23 pm
if a hijacker attempts to take a plane over, but can’t get into the cockpit, they’re still guilty
Correct. Because they attempted to hijack the plane.
An attempted plane hijacking does not equal trying to overthrow the leadership of the airline company to assume power over the company. Controlling a plane doesn't equal controlling an entire airline company.
Look at what the insurrectionists are being charged with.
For this plane analogy to work, you’d have to assume something like, that in the cockpit the airline bored of directors were finalizing the details on appointing a new chairman.
Ok. So throw that in there. Regardless, it doesn't result in the hijackers becoming the new chairman.
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:35 pm
by MICHHAWK
it's easier to push the narrative that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for us in 2024" than it is to look at your own failures. it's human nature. you think if the flock is hysterical they won't notice what is really going on.
politics 101
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:36 pm
by ousdahl
Yea, thank the lord the magaheads weren’t smart or organized enough to actually plan that much out
What was their end game, though? Some very shortsighted and ill-executed attempt to keep Trump in power, right?
Re: Violence
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:40 pm
by sdoyel
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:35 pm
it's easier to push the narrative that "the orange man and his army of white supremists are coming for us in 2024" than it is to look at your own failures. it's human nature. you think if the flock is hysterical they won't notice what is really going on.
politics 101
I mean, they ARE trying.
But the smart folks know it's over.
