It was well known for decades that natural immunity is superior to a vaccine. Even Dr. Fauci said this on video in 2014. People got carried away by the propaganda of 2021 and lost site of the real science.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:32 pm
by Deleted User 863
With this virus I do think there is a consensus that the combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity provides the greatest protection.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
by Overlander
“Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital”
The second article makes it clearer.
You have no idea the level or efficacy of the antibodies that having the virus provides.
The vaccine is much closer to a known.
Some of you dumbfucks sound like a trip to Haiti for a weekend of unprotected sex is a good idea….I mean…what are the odds that she will even get pregnant?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
by jhawks99
Over a million dead Americans disagree. Or would, you know, if they weren't dead.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:32 pm
With this virus I do think there is a consensus that the combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity provides the greatest protection.
It was well known for decades that natural immunity is superior to a vaccine. Even Dr. Fauci said this on video in 2014. People got carried away by the propaganda of 2021 and lost site of the real science.
Fucking dumb. Once again, you prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:32 pm
With this virus I do think there is a consensus that the combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity provides the greatest protection.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:35 pm
by Overlander
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
Over a million dead Americans disagree. Or would, you know, if they weren't dead.
Haven’t you heard? They were gonna die anyway
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:36 pm
by StayCurious
"If she's had the flu for 14 days, should she get a flu shot?"
Fauci: "Well no... the best vaccine is to get infected yourself."
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
Over a million dead Americans disagree. Or would, you know, if they weren't dead.
Haven’t you heard? They were gonna die anyway
My uncle, who died from covid, was in really good shape. Early 60s. Worked out 5 days a week. Got it, and waited too long before going to the hospital. Fought for a few weeks, but couldn't shake it.
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:33 pm
Over a million dead Americans disagree. Or would, you know, if they weren't dead.
Haven’t you heard? They were gonna die anyway
My uncle, who died from covid, was in really good shape. Early 60s. Worked out 5 days a week. Got it, and waited too long before going to the hospital. Fought for a few weeks, but couldn't shake it.
Yeah, I lost a good friend. He was in amazing shape, no health issues. His wife was a nurse at the hospital he died at
"If she's had the flu for 14 days, should she get a flu shot?"
Fauci: "Well no... the best vaccine is to get infected yourself."
Straight from Lord Fraudci's mouth.
Good job piling your stupidity in a stack
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:42 pm
by PhDhawk
The primary goal of any vaccine is to prevent death and serious illness. The covid19 virus causes that. The vaccine prevents it.
You can increase immunity with boosters.
The people with the strongest immunity are those who are fully vaxxed, who then become exposed to the virus.
This is not a good argument against vaccination. People without any immunization are at the highest risk.
In one scenario, unvaxxed, you have no secondary immunity to your first exposure. In the other, vaccinated, you do. It's ALWAYS better to have some level of protection.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:45 pm
by Overlander
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:42 pm
The primary goal of any vaccine is to prevent death and serious illness. The covid19 virus causes that. The vaccine prevents it.
You can increase immunity with boosters.
The people with the strongest immunity are those who are fully vaxxed, who then become exposed to the virus.
This is not a good argument against vaccination. People without any immunization are at the highest risk.
In one scenario, unvaxxed, you have no secondary immunity to your first exposure. In the other, vaccinated, you do. It's ALWAYS better to have some level of protection.
Thank you.
Also, appreciate the shout out for my Haiti reference
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:52 pm
by StayCurious
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:42 pm
The primary goal of any vaccine is to prevent death and serious illness. The covid19 virus causes that. The vaccine prevents it.
You can increase immunity with boosters.
The people with the strongest immunity are those who are fully vaxxed, who then become exposed to the virus.
This is not a good argument against vaccination. People without any immunization are at the highest risk.
In one scenario, unvaxxed, you have no secondary immunity to your first exposure. In the other, vaccinated, you do. It's ALWAYS better to have some level of protection.
You've been wrong since 2020 and still wrong in 2022.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:53 pm
by PhDhawk
The argument against vaccination in favor of immunity from infection rings hollow because the time in which you're most vulnerable is the primary infection.
Vaccination prevents that. It makes you first exposure more like the second time around. You'll do best, if when you get your primary infection, you've been immunized by vaccine. You'd still get that "natural immune response" to the virus....You'd just do so with a drastically reduced risk of dying or getting seriously ill.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:54 pm
by StayCurious
Well, this would be partially true if the covid shots were actual vaccines. They are of course mRNA and not a real vaccine. It's now been proven they do nothing at all to protect you or stop spread.