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StayCurious wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:44 am Interesting how Africa was doing pretty well without any shots. Almost seems like the vaccines just fueled variant evolution.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:35 am the evolution of covid variants…



evolution happens when 1) there is variation that is 2) heritable and 3) confers a relative advantage that results in more genetic information being passed to future generations from those with the beneficial variation, than those without the beneficial variation

beneficial variations in viruses most often are 1) host immune system evasion, and 2) greater transmissibility (among other things)

it’s obvious if you aren't a snowflake of conspiracy monger

StayCurious wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:44 am Interesting how Africa was doing pretty well without any shots. Almost seems like the vaccines just fueled variant evolution.

StayCurious wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:36 pm Were they vaccinated?

Everyone in our home got it in July. That version of it was super contagious, which likely meant it was weaker than the Delta. My wife and I take our vitamins and got over it very fast. I didn't even have much of cough, but the headache and fever were unpleasant enough. I lost my appetite for those weeks I could not smell very well. It's really unpleasant to lose your sense of smell. I was so happy when mine returned.

zsn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:44 pm

StayCurious wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:44 am Interesting how Africa was doing pretty well without any shots. Almost seems like the vaccines just fueled variant evolution.

a. Africa was not “doing pretty well” regardless of what YouTube says
b. It’s the disparity in the early availability of vaccines, coupled with a large immune-compromised population in Africa which was the breeding ground for Omicron variants.

It’s textbook immunology. PhD would have flunked students who wouldn’t have reached that conclusion, given the set of facts. In any case, believe what you want, including the housing crash in 2019 or sooner.

StayCurious wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:13 pm What usually happens when someone gets the flu is that their body gains natural immunity for about 10 years or more. What we're seeing with covid is really unusual because of a couple of reasons. Firstly, the vaccines (or shots is a more accurate description) have been shown to weaken immune system function in some people. The other thing is that the continuing mutation of the spike protein in covid seems to evade prior protection. Normally, a flu virus would be 98-99% the same virus your body had seen previous, so it immediately takes care of it. With covid, the virus is still 99% the same as the original strain in 2020, yet it still evades immunity. Why? Because the mutated spike protein and also, because the vaccine weakens immune systems in some people.