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Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 5:25 pm
by defixione
I was told by locals in Colorado that there are grizzlies in both the San Juan range and the Sangre de Cristo range.

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 5:27 pm
by KUTradition
defixione wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:25 pm I was told by locals in Colorado that there are grizzlies in both the San Juan range and the Sangre de Cristo range.
not saying they’re wrong, but locals in SE Kansas (actually, across much of the midwest) swear there are water moccasins in the area

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 6:15 pm
by TDub
I would be one of them. I would swear I seen them in SE kansas in the early 90s

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:07 pm
by KUTradition
be an informed consumer, for everyone’s sake

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... /?amp=true

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
Honest question(s):

As the population of the world continues to increase, aren't we going to have to expect, and accept, the extinction of some (many) species? Should we try harder to protect species we depend on for human life (bees for example) moreso than species that aren't as impactful on the human species/continuation of human life?

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:20 pm
by KUTradition
it is better to be silent and be thought dumb, than to speak and remove all doubt

aka, go back to school and learn some basic ecology. pay particular attention to food webs and the connectedness of ecosystems

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:23 pm
by Deleted User 863
Thanks for the response!

I know you're an animal expert, so was curious to hear your thoughts on running out of room to support certain species.

Ecosystems are constantly evolving/changing. I remember that from Ecology101 in college.

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:28 pm
by KUTradition
i’m not an “animal expert”, nor have i ever claimed to be one

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:30 pm
by Deleted User 863

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:32 pm
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:28 pm i’m not an “animal expert”, nor have i ever claimed to be one
Don't sell yourself short. You seem to be an expert on everything.

But seriously, maybe enthusiast was a more appropriate word. Either way. You're in the animal business.

Do you think saving a lot of these species is a realistic goal?

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:42 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:14 pm Should we try harder to protect species we depend on for human life (bees for example) moreso than species that aren't as impactful on the human species/continuation of human life?
Exactly. Fuck ‘em.
They should have had the foresight to be a bee….or a human

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:48 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:40 pm Troll

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:59 pm
by KUTradition

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:01 pm
by Cascadia

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:01 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:40 pm Trolls

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:02 pm
by KUTradition
Cascadia wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:01 pm
You know he didn’t read any of those.
^^^^^^

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:07 pm
by Deleted User 863
The first article presents some very interesting points and eye opening facts.

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:26 pm
by Overlander
defixione wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:25 pm I was told by locals in Colorado that there are grizzlies in both the San Juan range and the Sangre de Cristo range.
I definitely saw a Grizzly while Jeeping outside of Wolf Creek about 10 years ago.

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:41 pm
by KUTradition
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:07 pm The first article presents some very interesting points and eye opening facts.
lol, no

i know Alex, and the majority of his colleagues clowned on him for writing that OPINION piece

he should stick to what he actually knows: computational biology and phylogenetic systematics

edit: he’s an eccentric, boy-genius type with some great ideas…emphasis on some

Re: The Great Outdoors

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:53 pm
by Deleted User 863
KUTradition wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:41 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:07 pm The first article presents some very interesting points and eye opening facts.
lol, no

i know Alex, and the majority of his colleagues clowned on him for writing that OPINION piece

he should stick to what he actually knows: computational biology and phylogenetic systematics

edit: he’s an eccentric, boy-genius type with some great ideas…emphasis on some
Thanks for your opinion. I do wish you'd elaborate a little more about what in particular you disagree with.

Does he know what you think of him? If not, you can email him at rpyron@gwu.edu...maybe he'll take the time to come on here and discuss some of this with us? It's fascinating stuff.

I do think there is a lot of truth in that "opinion piece" though.