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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:19 pm
by KUTradition
it’s like you don’t even understand how science or math works

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:51 pm
by randylahey
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:45 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:48 pm
randylahey wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:03 pm Here's why these "the vaccine saved x-amount of people" arguments are flawed. Most people that die from covid are elderly and/or in poor health. Thats the group of people we are trying to save from covid right?

Well many of them that were vaccinated to save them from covid still died in the past 2 years. They were not "saved" at all... they are dead
"They were probably going to die any ways" is seriously your response?!? Fuck off.
Nearly everyone from Hitler's concentration camps is dead. WW2 didn't save anyone...they are dead.
Were his concentration camps a bunch of old obese people in their final stages of life? If so good comparison

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:18 pm
by twocoach
randylahey wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:51 pm
PhDhawk wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:45 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:48 pm
"They were probably going to die any ways" is seriously your response?!? Fuck off.
Nearly everyone from Hitler's concentration camps is dead. WW2 didn't save anyone...they are dead.
Were his concentration camps a bunch of old obese people in their final stages of life? If so good comparison
Nearly 200,000 covid deaths have been health care workers who contracted covid while treating infected people. Fuck you.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:23 pm
by twocoach
StayCurious wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:14 pm My bad. We need the CDC to post people on their website of people who have been injured or died from the jabs in order for it to be "official." I'm sure, given their track record, they'll be open and transparent about it.
Just like I am sure that none of the people on that website simply made some shit up and posted a picture of a bad hair day to make their case because they want to "protect their liberties" or some nonsense thing they read on social media.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am
by TDub
The world is restricting inbound flights from China again.

A recent flight from China to Italy found 52% of passengers to be infected with Covid.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am
by jfish26
StayCurious wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:14 pm My bad. We need the CDC to post people on their website of people who have been injured or died from the jabs in order for it to be "official." I'm sure, given their track record, they'll be open and transparent about it.
I'm not saying you're a rube. I'm just saying that the people who make money off rubes, make money off people who think like this.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:59 am
by KUTradition
TDub wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am The world is restricting inbound flights from China again.

A recent flight from China to Italy found 52% of passengers to be infected with Covid.
fauci has to be the most powerful, evil mastermind the world has ever known

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:21 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am The world is restricting inbound flights from China again.

A recent flight from China to Italy found 52% of passengers to be infected with Covid.
Mandatory covid tests provide only a snapshot at that moment are no guarantee of anything. There will be more people on those flights who test negative at the time they are required to test that test positive 2-4 days later. Those are restrictions that will not have any real impact unless they are prepared to quarantine everyone on the flight for a week, which will rightly never happen.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:23 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am
StayCurious wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:14 pm My bad. We need the CDC to post people on their website of people who have been injured or died from the jabs in order for it to be "official." I'm sure, given their track record, they'll be open and transparent about it.
I'm not saying you're a rube. I'm just saying that the people who make money off rubes, make money off people who think like this.
Rubes are a con man's wet dream. Look at the con artists they have empowered and enriched over the last 5 years. All it took was convincing the rubes that they were the super smart ones.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 am
by PhDhawk
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:23 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am
StayCurious wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:14 pm My bad. We need the CDC to post people on their website of people who have been injured or died from the jabs in order for it to be "official." I'm sure, given their track record, they'll be open and transparent about it.
I'm not saying you're a rube. I'm just saying that the people who make money off rubes, make money off people who think like this.
Rubes are a con man's wet dream. Look at the con artists they have empowered and enriched over the last 5 years. All it took was convincing the rubes that they were the super smart ones.
It's the emperor's new clothes, but in reverse

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:57 am
by twocoach
PhDhawk wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 am
twocoach wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:23 am
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am

I'm not saying you're a rube. I'm just saying that the people who make money off rubes, make money off people who think like this.
Rubes are a con man's wet dream. Look at the con artists they have empowered and enriched over the last 5 years. All it took was convincing the rubes that they were the super smart ones.
It's the emperor's new clothes, but in reverse
I found this article interesting:
https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/ ... rtist.html

"Those who believe they'd never fall for a scam don't realize it's not about how smart you are; it's about how well you control your emotions. Fraud victims are people with emotional needs, just like the rest of us. But they can't separate out those needs when they make financial decisions. That's what makes them vulnerable."
...
"My scam career was focused on investments like phony oil and gas deals, bogus business opportunities and gold-coin scams. And for these types of investments the perfect victim was almost always a male. Why men? Men are more emotional than women. Men are grandiose; they are full of ego. And that's all driven by emotion; it's driven by insecurity; it's driven by a feeling of inferiority."
...
"Most people who get emotional quickly will fall every time. And if they don't get worked up, I won't waste my time with them. If prospects are asking a lot of questions or tell me they want to think it over or talk with their lawyer, I will hang up the phone. Victims don't ask a lot of questions; they answer a lot of questions. Victims don't read paperwork; they wait for you to tell them what it says. Victims don't look for why the offer is a scam; they look for why the offer will make them money. They want you to make them feel good so they can pull the trigger."

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:08 am
by twocoach
On that topic: "If prospects are asking a lot of questions or tell me they want to think it over or talk with their lawyer, I will hang up the phone."

I got a phone call on Dec 21st from someone claiming to be from the local county sheriff's office. He asked if I was aware that I had missed a summons for jury duty and that I now had an arrest warrant issued in my name. Since I had recently moved, I was very concerned that a jury duty summons had perhaps been sent to me and lost in the "forward my mail" situation that we frankly believe has resulted in some of our mail not getting to us at our new address. It was initially pretty scary as they detailed how one of my options was to simply turn myself in to the sheriffs to be arrested.

I asked a ton of questions and screamed a few obscenities here and there. I continued to doubt the validity of what the person was telling me and when they finally announced that they would "send me a QR code that I could use at a bail terminal to post bail" I responded by stating that I would simply call the sheriff's office myself to figure out how to proceed. That's when they finally gave up on me and hung up. I then called the sheriff's office to ask them to check my situation and they confirmed I was fine and that the call was a scam that had been reported to them a few times in the past few days.

What was especially funny was that the same morons called me again the next day and tried it again. I had a hard time controlling my laughter as I told them they were the dumbest criminals on the planet because they were calling me from the same number trying the same con. They hung up much quicker that time.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:26 am
by StayCurious
You don't need to be "super smart" to see what is going on in the world. That's what's so depressing about so many "educated" people that can't put 2 and 2 together. "Educated" people are missing common sense or street smarts.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:33 am
by twocoach
StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:26 am You don't need to be "super smart" to see what is going on in the world. That's what's so depressing about so many "educated" people that can't put 2 and 2 together. "Educated" people are missing common sense or street smarts.
The problem being that you blindly apply some of what is going on in blanket fashion and are choosing to ignore what is going on that doesn't support your worldview. Reality is far more complex and nuanced than how you apply your "truth".

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:17 pm
by StayCurious

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:25 pm
by twocoach
StayCurious wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:17 pm
Does he think that the decline in hospitalizations just magically happened and has nothing to do with the fact that so many people have been vaccinated? Over 9 in 10 people aged 12 years and over in the UK had received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, nearly 9 in 10 had received two doses and around 7 in 10 had received three or more doses by the end of August 2022.

What is it that you think this video is proving (besides that if you put words like "BOOM" in a social media post and see it as some sort of "proof" of something that people will claim it is that without actually watching it and thinking about what it means)? Do you think this supports your claims that the COVID vaccine was totally unnecessary for the vast majority of people? To me it proves that getting a society to a high vaccination rate (90+%) combined with the benefits of advanced treatments and the inevitable increase of people's natural immunities for those who survive having COVID will result in exactly what they said would happen when the vaccines were first introduced; a reduction in hospitalizations and symptom severities caused by covid cases.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:27 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:59 am
TDub wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am The world is restricting inbound flights from China again.

A recent flight from China to Italy found 52% of passengers to be infected with Covid.
fauci has to be the most powerful, evil mastermind the world has ever known
It's sort of a microcosm of how fucked 1/3+ of our country is, that a guy who should have a generation of elementary schools and libraries and so on named for him, is instead not only facing years of bullshit, grandstanding Congressional inquiry, but threats to his and his family's lives.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:59 pm
by randylahey
You can't be serious about viewing faucci as a hero right. You are familiar with all the shady shit surrounding him, funding to labs, covid itself, and the endless streams of lies stemming from that to cover his ass right. Faucci will see his day in court. It'll be really interesting


Also the dumbest thing of all of this, instead of hearing out the views of teams and teams of medical experts on how we should go about handling covid, instead they wanted us to put all our stock in the opinion of one man who had shady ties to the situation to begin with

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:05 pm
by randylahey
There are lots of medical experts such as the one staycurious shared. Epidemiologists, virologists etc that saw things differently than faucci and his cult. Goverment agencies were pressuring big tech companies to censor/remove their platform (despite them being scientic medical professionals with informed opionions) because it did not benefit their agenda

With elon purchasing Twitter, some of those voices that needed to be heard all along are getting heard

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:14 pm
by TDub
jfish26 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:27 pm
KUTradition wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:59 am
TDub wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:35 am The world is restricting inbound flights from China again.

A recent flight from China to Italy found 52% of passengers to be infected with Covid.
fauci has to be the most powerful, evil mastermind the world has ever known
It's sort of a microcosm of how fucked 1/3+ of our country is, that a guy who should have a generation of elementary schools and libraries and so on named for him, is instead not only facing years of bullshit, grandstanding Congressional inquiry, but threats to his and his family's lives.
what?

I mean. lots to unpack there.

I think I just won't.