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Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:25 am
by DCHawk1
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:21 am
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:05 am
Because I'm curious...
If someone took action to legally make it so my spouse wasn't eligible to be covered under my health insurance
Any chance you could name for me one single insurance company that denies domestic-partner benefits?
At the time that Pence was banning gay couples from being married in Indiana? Several. Brad Wilson, the CEO and Preisident of Blue Cross Blue Shield put out a statement dated Jan. 29th 2014 revising their practice of not covering same sex marriages or domestic partners and began to cover them effective March 1, 2014.
Thanks.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:28 am
by twocoach
A survey of employee benefits done by the IFEBP found that from 2014 to 2016, the percentage of employers that provided benefits to same sex partners in legally recognized civil unions fell from 51% to 31%.
Once all states were forced to allow same sex marriage in 2015, they have done away with many of their rules and rights provided to civil unions. And 51% most certainly was lower than what you likely assumed it was.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:33 am
by DCHawk1
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:28 am
51% most certainly was lower than what you likely assumed it was.
Indeed it was.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:45 am
by Deleted User 89
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:56 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:49 am
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:34 am
this is a joke, right?
his stance on marriage isn't in a vacuum. why would his other views/legislative support not matter and be taken into account?
It's the argument of the theory while ignoring the practical impact.
I dont give a shit what Pence's motivations are or what label to assign to his official stance. The application of his stance results in US citizens being denied legal statuses that other US cirizens do have the right to for no other reason than their sexual preference. That's discriminatory and in my opinion, not what the founders of our nation had in mind when they declared that all men are created equal.
The application of Pence's stance doesn't result in anything.
Moreover, let's be perfectly accurate here, the application of Mike Pence's and Barack Obama's stance...
except it's no longer Obama's stance, and wasn't for the majority of the time he was in office
but you know that
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:06 pm
by DCHawk1
And?
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:28 pm
by Shirley
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:51 pm
by dolomite
Feral wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:28 pm
It's not against the law to print fake news.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:44 pm
by zsn
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:20 am
And all of this, I'll note, ignores the fact that Pence's position on marriage can be interpreted both from the libertarian and the federalist perspective as being anti-statist as opposed to anti-gay-marriage.
And when I hear sound of hoofed animals running, somewhere near the Saratoga racetrack in mid August, I could assume that I am hearing a bunch of migrating gnus. Or, one could go with the simpler explanation that Mike Pence is a bigot.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:36 pm
by DCHawk1
Sure. i know that gives you joy. So...go ahead.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:02 pm
by Mjl
I thought Obama's point of view was that he was personally against gay marriage for religious reasons but had no history of or intent to legislate based on that, whereas Pence has taken it to that next level. That's a significant distinction.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:58 pm
by Leawood
I’m waiting for Pence to get caught in a male prostitution sting.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:14 pm
by Deleted User 62
Leawood wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:58 pm
I’m waiting for Pence to get caught in a male prostitution sting.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:53 pm
by Leawood
It makes sense. I would bet his wife doesn’t give head.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:06 pm
by DCHawk1
Leawood wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:58 pm
I’m waiting for Pence to get caught in a male prostitution sting.
I would hope it happens before Trump is impeached.
Give him time to have me sworn in as Veep.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:28 am
by dolomite
So when Trump is impeached will the mainstream media be as mean and nasty towards the GOP as they are now?
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:15 pm
by DCHawk1
Meaner. Nastier.
Cuz Pence.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:27 pm
by Deleted User 62
dolomite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:28 am
So when Trump is impeached
Glad to see you turn the corner.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:45 pm
by defixione
dolomite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:28 am
So when Trump is impeached will the mainstream media be as mean and nasty towards the GOP as they are now?
Why do you care? Isn't that all fake news? That's what you've been telling us for the last 10 years.
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:15 pm
by dolomite
defixione wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:45 pm
dolomite wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:28 am
So when Trump is impeached will the mainstream media be as mean and nasty towards the GOP as they are now?
Why do you care? Isn't that all fake news? That's what you've been telling us for the last 10 years.
16 years
Re: Dumbfuck in charge
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:56 pm
by defixione
So why do you care?