Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:58 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:56 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:53 am It’s lie-laundering. Randy is not the original liar. He’s just one of the army of suckers that launder and legitimize the lies.

"But I heard it from a bunch of people so it must be true" was the beginning of this cycle. As the BS propaganda began to expand and every rube on the planet hit Share/Repost on Facebook/Twitter, all it took for people like Randy to believe it was to see that someone else like him believed it.

And of course this is straight down the fairway of what the Russian troll farms DO. This was a core part of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election - and the success of this play likely surprised even them.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:50 am Serious question:

How would Biden fare in a debate against Cornel West?

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:45 am Groundhog day again

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:24 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:45 am Groundhog day again

Is that CGI/AI?

mjl2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:28 pm Yep, populists these days "win" debates over pragmatists, especially if the audience is allowed to cheer

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:00 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:50 am Serious question:

How would Biden fare in a debate against Cornel West?

Poorly? Because it’s an unfair fight: Biden has to give responsible answers, and West doesn’t.

mjl2 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:28 pm Yep, populists these days "win" debates over pragmatists, especially if the audience is allowed to cheer

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:58 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:56 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:53 am It’s lie-laundering. Randy is not the original liar. He’s just one of the army of suckers that launder and legitimize the lies.

"But I heard it from a bunch of people so it must be true" was the beginning of this cycle. As the BS propaganda began to expand and every rube on the planet hit Share/Repost on Facebook/Twitter, all it took for people like Randy to believe it was to see that someone else like him believed it.

And of course this is straight down the fairway of what the Russian troll farms DO. This was a core part of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election - and the success of this play likely surprised even them.

psych wrote:fake news

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:12 pm

psych wrote:fake news

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:39 pm They’re not contradictory at all.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:13 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:39 pm They’re not contradictory at all.

Please help me understand.

In this Biden/West scenario, who’s the populist and who’s the pragmatist?

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:57 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:13 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:39 pm They’re not contradictory at all.

Please help me understand.

In this Biden/West scenario, who’s the populist and who’s the pragmatist?

I think mjl wasn't intending to label either of those, either of those. I think he (?) was agreeing with my point that, in a debate between a serious candidate and an unserious chaos agent, the unserious chaos agent has a massive inherent advantage.