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Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:11 pm
by Deleted User 289
Ghost of dotNET past wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:52 am Stealing my questions....
Ghost of dotNET past wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:45 pm Real question, if NCAA (won't happen, just thought experiment) decided to scrap the NCAA tourney, and just award it to the AP #1 team, would KU hang a banner?
PortlandHawk wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:49 am Hypothetical: the tourney gets canceled, the NCAA desiring to name a champion, opts to have a coaches vote on the best team. We are selected as the champion.

Do you accept that? Does that feel like a short changing? Won’t other teams point to the asterisk and downplay our accomplishment?

I personally feel that would suck.
If you are going to accuse him/her of stealing your questions am I supposed to accuse you of stealing mine?

Post by Grandma » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:27 am

Does the NCAA announce the Tournament is cancelled before or after Selection Sunday?
If we are the number 1 team in the country do we get a trophy and do we hang a banner?
"Gutter, your signature line is kinda whiney".
Jeeper - 01/25/20

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:13 pm
by Deleted User 141
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:08 pm
Gqcolorado wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:05 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:55 am No tourney means no champion.

Makes empty arenas feel very preferable.
College football figured it out up to a few years ago. But....we are dumber now than we used to be, so I get it.
Did they? They fumbled (no pun intended) with that for a century and still haven't figured that shit out.

It's also a completely different scenario.
Fumble caused for similar reasons one could argue.

Scenario different, desired outcome the same.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:14 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:09 pm
pdub wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:04 pm Also there's no way the NCAA would give US the chance at being champion by a coaches vote.
What MICHHAWK said, just no champion in 2020.
Well, it wouldn't be the first time we hung a banner for an administratively-awarded title.
Right. The fact that there are Helms banners as big as the real banners makes me pretty confident we would embarrassingly hang a 2020 MNC banner.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:16 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Yeah. Just don't think it'll be completely cancelled. I think the most extreme thing to happen is limited/no fans. By limited, I mean those sections that each school has allotted. The rest will be empty.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:17 pm
by jfish26
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:16 pm Yeah. Just don't think it'll be completely cancelled. I think the most extreme thing to happen is limited/no fans. By limited, I mean those sections that each school has allotted. The rest will be empty.
I also tend to think that, in order of likelihood, outright cancellation is at the bottom of the list.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:18 pm
by pdub
If the NCAA ruled that we were champions because we were the number one team in the land, yup, hang it.

I'd have no issue with it.
They won't though - no way the NCAA gives us that.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:18 pm
by twocoach
If the ncaa de declares us champs then we'd certainly take it but we would hear about it forever. Imagine how much shit KU fans would give any rival program fans if they backed their way into a championship like that.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:20 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:18 pm If the NCAA ruled that we were champions because we were the number one team in the land, yup, hang it.

I'd have no issue with it.
They won't though - no way the NCAA gives us that.
The NCAA might prefer to make us win six games in empty arenas over being forced to crown our asses.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:21 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
twocoach wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:18 pm If the ncaa de declares us champs then we'd certainly take it but we would hear about it forever. Imagine how much shit KU fans would give any rival program fans if they backed their way into a championship like that.
It would be such a large asterisk. NCAA has only ever declared a men's basketball national champion through its tournament winner.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:24 pm
by Soklous
twocoach wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:18 pm If the ncaa de declares us champs then we'd certainly take it but we would hear about it forever. Imagine how much shit KU fans would give any rival program fans if they backed their way into a championship like that.

On your side on the take... BUT....

Staters already do this for the Helms. I’m not going to be bothered in the slightest for jealous ignorance. Both situations are by the governing bodies and nothing of our doing. So to that notion, fuck em.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:30 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Soklous wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:24 pmStaters already do this for the Helms. I’m not going to be bothered in the slightest for jealous ignorance. Both situations are by the governing bodies and nothing of our doing.
Helms was no governing body, though.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm
by MICHHAWK
So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:40 pm
by Deleted User 289
The CBI Tournament is cancelled. And not a single person really cares.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:41 pm
by NewtonHawk11
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
A mass of classes and dorms are A LOT different than a team of 15 guys, 10 coaches/staff and essential arena personnel.

I get why colleges are sending kids home. There's a mass of humanity everywhere at universities, a basketball team in multiple controlled environments is different.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:42 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
Can the rest of the NCAA's operation make do without the revenue?

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:43 pm
by Deleted User 289
The NCAA had originally scheduled a conference call regarding the NCAA Tournament, but now that's not happening. It's certainly going to be interesting to see how this is all handled with Selection Sunday just a few days away.

The NCAA has canceled a scheduled conference call about the tournament for today.

— David Gardner (@byDavidGardner) March 11, 2020

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:48 pm
by NewtonHawk11
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:42 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
Can the rest of the NCAA's operation make do without the revenue?
I have heard they have some sort of "rainy day" fund. But I don't think a complete cancel will happen. It's either going to be played without a full arena, or it's going to be pushed back until April or something like that once it settles down a bit.

But I still think the TV people may want the show to go on or will prevent the NCAA from collecting their money.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:48 pm
by MICHHAWK
jfish26 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:42 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
Can the rest of the NCAA's operation make do without the revenue?
I think I read somewhere that 80% of their revenue is generated from the tournament. That is huge for sure. But I hope that is not factored.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:48 pm
by Deleted User 289
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:41 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
A mass of classes and dorms are A LOT different than a team of 15 guys, 10 coaches/staff and essential arena personnel.

I get why colleges are sending kids home. There's a mass of humanity everywhere at universities, a basketball team in multiple controlled environments is different.
I agree it's different but how do you control the "environments" in terms of holding NCAA Tournament games? You are talking travel exposure, lodging exposure, food exposure, venue exposure, and is every single player and coach going to be tested before and during the tournament on a daily basis? What about those they come in contact with? ZERO way to completely "control" all the environments they will/would be exposed to.

Re: NCAA 19-20

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:52 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Grandma wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:48 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:41 pm
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:37 pm So far this morning Michigan State and Central Michigan have sent the kids home. All on line or the foreseeable future.

I’m beginning to think complete cancel may not be a stretch.
A mass of classes and dorms are A LOT different than a team of 15 guys, 10 coaches/staff and essential arena personnel.

I get why colleges are sending kids home. There's a mass of humanity everywhere at universities, a basketball team in multiple controlled environments is different.
I agree it's different but how do you control the "environments" in terms of holding NCAA Tournament games? You are talking travel exposure, lodging exposure, food exposure, venue exposure, and is every single player and coach going to be tested before and during the tournament on a daily basis? What about those they come in contact with? ZERO way to completely "control" all the environments they will/would be exposed to.
Everywhere they go is closely monitored and it's controlled as to where they go.

I'll say this, I bet that letting the athletes be on their own would be far more dangerous and more likely to pick up the virus than playing in an empty arena.