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If Susan Mcdougal got thrown in the slammer despite that solid cleavage, I don’t think Bannon’s eyebrows will do him any favors at all

Left the White Sux game early.
As I was leaving there were a bunch of police cars zooming right by me.
A mile away........

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootin ... /11117995/

Two thoughts.
1) These days, I would probably not send my kid to a Chicago Public School.
2) If you own a gun for any reason other than self defense, you're an asshole for doing as such.

what about hunters? sport shooters? collectors? Ranchers? All assholes?

Id argue people that own them only for so called "self defense" are more deserving of the asshole moniker than anyone I listed.

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:25 pm Id argue people that own them only for so called "self defense" are more deserving of the asshole moniker than anyone I listed.

i'd agree with that

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:24 pm what about hunters? sport shooters? collectors? Ranchers? All assholes?

I don't expect others to agree but I feel......

Hunters who take/get pleasure out of killing a living being = asshole
Sport shooters who take/get pleasure out of killing a living being = asshole
Collectors = Not assholes
Ranchers who take/get pleasure out of killing a living being = asshole

lol

1. where do you get your burgers? didnt you eat 1000 burgers in a year? Did those animals jump off a bridge? commit hari kari so you could eat them?

2. sport shooters shoot targets....not animals.

who says ranchers get pleasure out of it? Thats money, life, food, existence.

Didn't mean to say or imply anything other than I feel people who get pleasure out of killing a living being are assholes - for doing as such.
I know some terrific people who I feel are assholes in that regard.

How does the hamburger get to your table?

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:40 pm How does the hamburger get to your table?

As a lifelong vegetarian I’m truly unsure about the nuances of hamburger production but am I correct in assuming that they put a bullet in the head with a handgun or a rifle? Don’t they have a scalable way to murder these poor beasts?

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:03 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:40 pm How does the hamburger get to your table?

As a lifelong vegetarian I’m truly unsure about the nuances of hamburger production but am I correct in assuming that they put a bullet in the head with a handgun or a rifle? Don’t they have a scalable way to murder these poor beasts?

They have a machine that spikes them thru the skull iirc.

In other words, hamburgers can get to your table without any need for a gun anywhere in its production?

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:11 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:03 pm

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:40 pm How does the hamburger get to your table?

As a lifelong vegetarian I’m truly unsure about the nuances of hamburger production but am I correct in assuming that they put a bullet in the head with a handgun or a rifle? Don’t they have a scalable way to murder these poor beasts?

They have a machine that spikes them thru the skull iirc.

depends on size of operation. But yes, large operations they run them down an alley into a chute outfitted with a pneumatic bolt gun which stuns them and renders them unconscious but not dead. Then they are hooked dragged and hung upside down in rows where neck are slit and they are bled.


Smaller operations are much more...humane in my opinion. My buddy was a local butcher for 20 years. He did most of the beef for the area ranchers and local stores. He would get the call, drive to the ranch. Ride out to the pasture, ease up, hitter with the mini 14 and go winch into truck for processing. Cattle stay relaxed and calm right up to the end.

zsn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:44 pm In other words, hamburgers can get to your table without any need for a gun anywhere in its production?

my God are we arguing about a rifle vs a bolt gun now?

I'm not but I will argue that there is a HUGE difference between cattle being "inhumanly" "slaughtered" for consumption and someone taking their gun and shooting a living being FOR FUN.

i like meat. the path it takes to get to my table is of no concern to me.

NotGutterGutter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:56 am I'm not but I will argue that there is a HUGE difference between cattle being "inhumanly" "slaughtered" for consumption and someone taking their gun and shooting a living being FOR FUN.

you are the only person who keeps throwing out the for fun thing.

but its apparently the reason all hunters, ranchers,....and sport shooters (who, uh, dont shoot at living things at all.....) are assholes.

seems apt for where this thread has gone:

https://mdpi.com/2673-7159/1/4/22