Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:45 pm Could be a bad system fit. So far I'd think he'd look a little better in Calipari's dribble drive.

Bill's off-guard has always needed to be able to shoot: Chalmers, Sherron, Reed, Graham.

When Selby wasn't making jump shots, he became worthless. Selden never fit in here at the 2.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:27 pm I'm surprised that the things on his scouting report haven't really been evident, even ones that aren't necessarily basketball specific,.

He is supposed to be an explosive athlete and we haven't seen that. His size is great under the assumption that he's a 1/2...seeing that he's more of a 2/3, his size seems to only be adequate at the next level.

And in terms of basketball specific things, he was touted as a great on ball defender, and the nicest thing I can say about his on-ball defense is that it isn't as bad as off the ball. He was supposed to be great at pick and roll, and creating offense, and maybe that's on Self that he hasn't gotten to do those things.

He's shown great vision/passing here and there...and his one weakness was supposed to be perimeter shooting...and he went off against MSU. So...there's a big part of me that thinks all the scouts were just off in their assessment of Grimes.

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:44 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:27 pm I'm surprised that the things on his scouting report haven't really been evident, even ones that aren't necessarily basketball specific,.

He is supposed to be an explosive athlete and we haven't seen that. His size is great under the assumption that he's a 1/2...seeing that he's more of a 2/3, his size seems to only be adequate at the next level.

And in terms of basketball specific things, he was touted as a great on ball defender, and the nicest thing I can say about his on-ball defense is that it isn't as bad as off the ball. He was supposed to be great at pick and roll, and creating offense, and maybe that's on Self that he hasn't gotten to do those things.

He's shown great vision/passing here and there...and his one weakness was supposed to be perimeter shooting...and he went off against MSU. So...there's a big part of me that thinks all the scouts were just off in their assessment of Grimes.

I feel that Grimes has been at his best attacking the rim. Couple drives late against ASU, and the stretch against Wofford where people thought it clicked for him and he finally figured it out. Outside of hot shooting against MSU, driving the basketball is his most effective attribute.

I don't think the fact he went off against MSU is a very good reason to say the scouts were off in their assessment. The 10 games after that he is 5-28 from 3. Unless you're saying the scouts were off by saying he's not a great shooter when they should have said he's a terrible shooter?

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:55 pm I am not disappointed; just bummed for him. He's trying to figure it out. Quinerley at Nova and Little at Carolina are also going through the same issues so he isn't alone and KU/Self doesn't look "bad" for it. College hoops is hard even when you're supposed to be some hot shit HS recruit.

Self undoubtedly told him in recruiting that his ranking won't earn him a single bucket or minute of play and he is just being proven right. It may take him 3 weeks or 3 years how to play at the next level, who knows.

I hope we get to see him break through. No doubt he is working his ass off trying.

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:12 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:55 pm I am not disappointed; just bummed for him. He's trying to figure it out. Quinerley at Nova and Little at Carolina are also going through the same issues so he isn't alone and KU/Self doesn't look "bad" for it. College hoops is hard even when you're supposed to be some hot shit HS recruit.

Self undoubtedly told him in recruiting that his ranking won't earn him a single bucket or minute of play and he is just being proven right. It may take him 3 weeks or 3 years how to play at the next level, who knows.

I hope we get to see him break through. No doubt he is working his ass off trying.

The thing the disappoints me is that if he misses a few shots, he loses his mindset to be aggressive. Then just spends the rest of the game kind of floating around the perimeter and taking the occasional jumpshot. It also seems like he makes his mind up for what he will do 2-3 passes before he even gets the ball. He'll catch and shoot when guys are right on him, but not when he is open.

You can tell to start games and 2nd halves that Self is trying to force the issue and make him be aggressive, driving the ball, looking to score, etc. Just that he misses 1 or 2 shots and his confidence in back down to zero.

I guess that's the down side of playing one of the hardest schedules year in and year out. You don't get many chances for "confidence games" against directional schools. Not to mention the effects if you play poorly in one of those games.

pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:15 am There was a play last night where he knew the guy guarding him had no chance so he posted him and got fouled.
Liked it.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:50 am Also, the play where he dove on the floor to get the loose ball in the second half, was by far his biggest hustle play thus far.