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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:21 pm
by zsn
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:29 am
I think most people praise it as "getting the science right" moreso than other similar movies.
But I do know colleagues who were very critical of certain aspects of it, though I'm not sure what exactly. Since I didn't watch it.
There's always going to be some a-hole scientist who is going to nitpick every minute detail of every scene and come up with some criticism. As they say in Geico commercials "That's what we do" - if we didn't science would never progress. But at some point you just appreciate the fact that they took the effort and got it mostly right: e.g. Breaking Bad - I am a chemist in the pharma industry and my job involves making bulk drug for clinical trials and commercial distribution. In effect, I am paid to be the Walter White of my employer. I have also worked with amphetamine derivatives and know that they are notoriously difficult to crystallize at all let alone crystallize reproducibly - that would be a nitpick. But that is what makes watching these movies/series fun. They portray the most of the chemistry quite accurately - they use the most advanced non-proprietary way to make the stuff.
What does irk me are scenes of someone injecting something into what looks like a gas chromatograph and then a few minutes later a structure of a hitherto unknown compound pops up on the screen! Superman movies are more believable than that!!!!!!
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:55 pm
by jhawks99
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:18 pm
by Deleted User 89
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:21 pm
PhDhawk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:29 am
I think most people praise it as "getting the science right" moreso than other similar movies.
But I do know colleagues who were very critical of certain aspects of it, though I'm not sure what exactly. Since I didn't watch it.
There's always going to be some a-hole scientist who is going to nitpick every minute detail of every scene and come up with some criticism. As they say in Geico commercials "That's what we do" - if we didn't science would never progress. But at some point you just appreciate the fact that they took the effort and got it mostly right: e.g. Breaking Bad - I am a chemist in the pharma industry and my job involves making bulk drug for clinical trials and commercial distribution. In effect, I am paid to be the Walter White of my employer. I have also worked with amphetamine derivatives and know that they are notoriously difficult to crystallize at all let alone crystallize reproducibly - that would be a nitpick. But that is what makes watching these movies/series fun. They portray the most of the chemistry quite accurately - they use the most advanced non-proprietary way to make the stuff.
What does irk me are scenes of someone injecting something into what looks like a gas chromatograph and then a few minutes later a structure of a hitherto unknown compound pops up on the screen! Superman movies are more believable than that!!!!!!
hilarious that you pick up on that sort of stuff
i do the same thing, but with biodiversity...organisms out of place geographically
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:54 pm
by zsn
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:18 pm
hilarious that you pick up on that sort of stuff
i do the same thing, but with biodiversity...organisms out of place geographically
Then you must be the guy who ratted out CBS for piping in fake bird sounds during golf tournament broadcasts - a few years ago some bird-nerd heard (unintentional rhyme!!) a white-throated sparrow at a Louisville PGA broadcast and knew that those don't hang around in Louisville that time of the year. Busted!! This was their second or third offense - Masters about 20 years or so ago was the first time they got busted for some similar out-of-place bird!!
https://nypost.com/2001/04/08/no-more-c ... t-masters/
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:17 am
by ousdahl
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:35 am
by Shirley
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:54 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:18 pm
hilarious that you pick up on that sort of stuff
i do the same thing, but with biodiversity...organisms out of place geographically
Then you must be the guy who ratted out CBS for piping in fake bird sounds during golf tournament broadcasts - a few years ago some bird-nerd heard (unintentional rhyme!!) a white-throated sparrow at a Louisville PGA broadcast and knew that those don't hang around in Louisville that time of the year. Busted!! This was their second or third offense - Masters about 20 years or so ago was the first time they got busted for some similar out-of-place bird!!
https://nypost.com/2001/04/08/no-more-c ... t-masters/
I knew it! And, I immediately thought of The Masters, as I read your post.
A lawyer I once slept with critiques shows involving crimes, trails, law, etc., constantly pointing out how "that would never have gone to trial and would have been settled", etc. And I critique medical shows, pointing out how "that would never happen", yada, yada.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:44 am
by Deleted User 289
O'Hare airport 1/31/20.
I have been here for about an hour.
I guesstimate 1 in every 100 or so people are wearing a mask.
I guesstimate of those 1 in every 100, 70% are of Asian descent.
I guesstimate that I have heard 40 people cough. ZERO of which are/were wearing a mask.
That and $11 gets me a round trip airfare ticket to KC and back. And possibly the Coronavirus?
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:37 am
by DCHawk1
Just FYI, in case, you know...hasbeen is your doctor:
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fac ... o9tLXsRfU8
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:17 pm
by jhawks99
Heard a report on the radio that consumption of Corona is down due to fears of spreading the virus.
Sum poepel are dum.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:31 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:17 am
Fake. But that shouldnt come as a surprise
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:03 pm
by Shirley
HHS declares coronavirus emergency, orders quarantine
The federal government declared a formal public health emergency on Jan. 31 to aid in the response to the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The declaration, issued by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex. M. Azar II gives state, tribal, and local health departments additional flexibility to request assistance from the federal government in responding to the coronavirus.
"While this virus poses a serious public health threat, the risk to the American public remains low at this time, and we are working to keep this risk low."*
The government also began a quarantine of travelers. The 195 passengers who arrived at March Air Reserve Base in Ontario, Calif., from Wuhan, China on Jan. 29 are under federal quarantine amid growing concerns about the 2019-nCoV—the first such action taken by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in more than 50 years...
These actions come on the heels of the World Health Organization’s Jan. 30 declaration of 2019-nCoV as a public health emergency of international concern, and from a recent spike in cases reported by Chinese health officials. “Every day this week China has reported additional cases,” Dr. Messonnier said. “Today’s numbers are a 26% increase since yesterday. Over the course of the last week, there have been nearly 7,000 new cases reported. This tells us the virus is continuing to spread rapidly in China. The reported deaths have continued to rise as well. In addition, locations outside China have continued to report cases. There have been an increasing number of reports of person-to-person spread, and now, most recently, a report in the New England Journal of Medicine of asymptomatic spread.”
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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:45 am
by Shirley
Villages and cities in China have resorted to flying drones with speakers to patrol streets and scold people not wearing masks in public amid the coronavirus outbreak, according to Chinese state media.
And, just below the above story:
Thousands of Hong Kong public medical staff have voted to strike on Monday if the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) government does not agree to demands to close the border with mainland China.
The Hospital Authority Employees Alliance has 13,000 members. Of those members who voted on Saturday night, 3,123 voted yes for the strike action, 10 against and 23 abstained. 8,825 members signed an online petition saying they will go on strike next week if demands to close border are not met.
Thousands of medical staff are calling on the HKSAR government to ban all visitors from mainland China to prevent the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus to Hong Kong.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:58 pm
by Deleted User 89
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:11 pm
by Deleted User 89
it’s “only” the regular flu, but some virulent strains making their presence known
an 11th and 8th grader died here in SLC from two different strains
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/f ... index.html
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:50 pm
by DCHawk1
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:54 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Negatory.
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:52 am
by Shirley
Novel coronavirus cases now at 11; entry ban and quarantine measures begin
Publish date: February 3, 2020
FROM A CDC PRESS BRIEFING
An additional 5 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus (2109-nCoV) have been confirmed in the United States, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 11, Nancy Messonnier, MD, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said during a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention press briefing.
Four of the new cases are in California, and one in Massachusetts. Although four of the new cases have recent travel history to Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the 2019-nCoV outbreak, the fifth is a close household contact of one of the other California patients, said Dr. Messonnier. This last case is the second instance of person-to-person spread of 2019-nCoV in the United States.
“We expect to find additional cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States,” she said. “We expect to see more cases of person-to-person spread among close contacts. And we continue to expect this will happen given the explosive nature of this outbreak in China.”
As of the morning of Feb. 3, 167 persons under investigation, or PUIs, for possible 2019-nCoV have tested negative for the virus, and an additional 82 PUIs have testing pending – this latter figure includes some tests that are still in transit to the CDC, said Dr. Messonnier.
During the briefing, Dr. Messonnier emphasized both the aggressive nature of the U.S. public health response and the rationale for quick and assertive action. “The goal of our public health response is to protect and contain,” she said. “Strong measures now may blunt the impact of this virus on the United States.”
She cited the intensity of transmission in Hubei Province, the expansion of transmission to other provinces in China, the expansion of cases outside of China, and sporadic ongoing deaths from 2019-nCoV as drivers of the aggressive U.S. public health response.
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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:44 pm
by Shirley
Say what?
In Coronavirus, China Weighs Benefits of Buffalo Horn and Other Remedies
China is advising doctors to consider mixing Western antiviral drugs with traditional Chinese medicine for the treatment of the coronavirus. But experts question the efficacy of Chinese remedies.
As it races to treat patients infected with the new coronavirus, the Chinese government is seeing potential in a cocktail of antiviral drugs. It is also recommending the Peaceful Palace Bovine Pill, a traditional Chinese medicine made with the gallstone of cattle, buffalo horn, jasmine and pearl.
There is no known cure for the coronavirus that has sickened 24,324 people and killed 490 in China. The country’s National Health Commission says doctors should try treating patients mainly with a combination of Western drugs used to treat HIV and fight viruses, depending on the severity of illness.
But the government is also looking at ways to supplement the treatment with remedies that are integral to its national identity — traditional Chinese medicine. It has its supporters.
“I think it is the correct approach,” said Cheng Yung-chi, a professor of pharmacology at Yale University School of Medicine. “The evidence is going to come and we have to give it the benefit of the doubt.
There is no clinical proof that the roots of various plants, licorice, and the Peaceful Palace Bovine Pill can help combat the deadly disease. Practitioners say the regimen could help ease symptoms such as swelling in the lungs, with fewer side effects. Critics say the use of such concoctions could raise concerns about patient safety.
The use of these ancient Chinese remedies dovetails with a push by Xi Jinping, China’s top leader, to harness them as a source of national pride. He has said that officials should place as much importance on traditional Chinese medicines as they do on Western medicines. His government has called for the remedies to be promoted in its “Belt and Road” trade route, China’s push to build ports, rail lines and other infrastructure around the world.
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Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:37 pm
by Deleted User 89
and where do we think the ingredients to make their magic pills come from?
the same fucking places that the virus likely originated
Re: Where's the petri dish thread?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:57 am
by ousdahl
Cruise ship quarantined.
