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Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:43 am
by KUTradition
i also read that there are questions as to whether ronny even had the authority to use the funds he did
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:53 am
by MICHHAWK
i don't ever want to hear ever again that this country does not love illegal aliens that are in this country illegally.
we just shipped oodles of illegals that are in this country illegally to marthas vineyard. arguably the nicest zip code in the country. to sip tea. feast on seafood. chill on the beach. fly a kite. hang with the obamas. the clintons.
who cares how we paid for it. we should all have it so good.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:58 am
by jhawks99
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:42 am
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas- ... e7fc321a81#
"Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar, a Democrat, said he was opening up a criminal investigation over migrants who were "lured" from the Migrant Resource Center under "false pretenses" and flown to Florida, where they were ultimately left to fend for themselves in Martha’s Vineyard, he said in a video message to announce the probe.
"Here we have 48 people that are already on hard times. They are here legally in our country at that point," he said. "I believe that they were preyed upon. Somebody came from out of state, preyed upon these people, lured them with promises of a better life, which is absolutely what they were looking for.""
I saw this sheriff interviewed this morning. This came off, at least to me, as a publicity stunt almost as bad as de santis's.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:45 am
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:53 am
i don't ever want to hear ever again that this country does not love illegal aliens that are in this country illegally.
we just shipped oodles of illegals that are in this country illegally to marthas vineyard. arguably the nicest zip code in the country. to sip tea. feast on seafood. chill on the beach. fly a kite. hang with the obamas. the clintons.
who cares how we paid for it. we should all have it so good.
This seems relevant today:
"A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact."
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:46 am
by KUTradition
i still want to know more about those illegal aliens that are here legally
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:13 pm
by twocoach
They entered our country illegally and are now staying here legally awaiting their asylum hearing. Not sure why the US doesn't hire a thousand immigration judges and admins to work at various stations along the border to hear and process the massive backlog of asylum cases. Seems like a nice "American Jobs" bump to me and gets these people's legal status figured out in a manner of months instead of years.
The US needs to figure out a better way to determine initial asylum eligibility and status. Every presidential administration has failed to create a better method for this. We're a country that people want to move to; this should be recognized as a need and invested in.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:38 pm
by dolomite
If there’s no room in Fl, Tx, Az for the immigrants then where should they be sent? Don’t think the Dems should be complaining.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:50 pm
by defixione
There's room. The state governments don't want them.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:14 pm
by zsn
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:13 pm
They entered our country illegally and are now staying here legally awaiting their asylum hearing.
Technically, seeking asylum by presenting oneself at the border is one of the legal ways to enter the US.
There’s one simple way to solve the unauthorized employment problem. The law allows for prosecution of the employers who hire those who don’t have proper authorization for employment. For every “illegal immigrant” busted at a raid there is a corresponding employer who has equal culpability. Mete out the same punishment (jail time) and the problem will disappear.
The issue is not that we can’t solve it, it’s that there’s powerful interest in NOT solving it. Where’s the “Enforce the existing law” cry from the right wingers?
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:42 pm
by Overlander
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:14 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:13 pm
They entered our country illegally and are now staying here legally awaiting their asylum hearing.
The issue is not that we can’t solve it, it’s that there’s powerful interest in NOT solving it. Where’s the “Enforce the existing law” cry from the right wingers?
This
It isn’t complicated
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:17 pm
by ousdahl
Speaking of powerful interests in not solving it, there’s stories of “illegal immigrants” being hauled across the country by farms and manual labor and the other such common “illegal immigrant” employers, and employers subjecting them to shit working conditions for shit wages, and if they act up the employers threaten/use the leverage of deportation, but I admit it’s just stories, I haven’t done my own research, like dolomite has with ivermectin.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:40 pm
by Overlander
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:17 pm
Speaking of powerful interests in not solving it, there’s stories of “illegal immigrants” being hauled across the country by farms and manual labor and the other such common “illegal immigrant” employers, and employers subjecting them to shit working conditions for shit wages, and if they act up the employers threaten/use the leverage of deportation, but I admit it’s just stories, I haven’t done my own research, like dolomite has with ivermectin.
It is really, really common
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:40 pm
by Overlander
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:17 pm
Speaking of powerful interests in not solving it, there’s stories of “illegal immigrants” being hauled across the country by farms and manual labor and the other such common “illegal immigrant” employers, and employers subjecting them to shit working conditions for shit wages, and if they act up the employers threaten/use the leverage of deportation, but I admit it’s just stories, I haven’t done my own research, like dolomite has with ivermectin.
It is really, really common
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:28 am
by twocoach
zsn wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:14 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:13 pm
They entered our country illegally and are now staying here legally awaiting their asylum hearing.
Technically, seeking asylum by presenting oneself at the border is one of the legal ways to enter the US.
There’s one simple way to solve the unauthorized employment problem. The law allows for prosecution of the employers who hire those who don’t have proper authorization for employment. For every “illegal immigrant” busted at a raid there is a corresponding employer who has equal culpability. Mete out the same punishment (jail time) and the problem will disappear.
The issue is not that we can’t solve it, it’s that there’s powerful interest in NOT solving it. Where’s the “Enforce the existing law” cry from the right wingers?
They are too busy getting reasonably priced roofing and eating reasonably priced produce thanks to the work of illegal immigrants.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:28 pm
by dolomite
What would we do without’em??
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:53 pm
by twocoach
dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:28 pm
What would we do without’em??
You could do some research and find out that that is a legitimate problem with an unpleasant answer.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:05 pm
by zsn
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:53 pm
dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:28 pm
What would we do without’em??
You could do some research and find out that that is a legitimate problem with an unpleasant answer.
There’s a movie from 2004 called “A Day Without a Mexican”. That’s the answer to dolo’s question, if (s)he’s ready for the answer.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:15 pm
by jhawks99
Didn't Alabama crack down really hard on migrant workers at one point? As I recall, it didn't work out very well.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:34 pm
by twocoach
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:15 pm
Didn't Alabama crack down really hard on migrant workers at one point? As I recall, it didn't work out very well.
You mean the same state where they recently found a bunch of underage illegal immigrants working at a Hyundai manufacturing plant?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclus ... 022-07-22/
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:55 pm
by dolomite
zsn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:05 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:53 pm
dolomite wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:28 pm
What would we do without’em??
You could do some research and find out that that is a legitimate problem with an unpleasant answer.
There’s a movie from 2004 called “A Day Without a Mexican”. That’s the answer to dolo’s question, if (s)he’s ready for the answer.
Nevertheless it’s a conondrum or maybe a “catch-22”?