Kansas Crimson

Shirley wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:34 am

BiggDick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:11 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:29 pm So what you’re saying is, if you doubt you have a solid grasp of something, it is wise to avoid expressing a strong opinion about it?

umm...that's not quite what I was saying.

but I think I agree with your statement too.

Obviously, not.

Zing!





(wut?)

and, given this most recent and most egregious example of the company being led by a shameless white supremacist, I too could get behind a twitter ban (I still hesitate to call it X just cuz I don't wanna validate Elon's bullshit)

but yea, it sucks that the alternative options for access to information are still limited.

At the very least, just think to yourself, is this Twitter link worth posting?
If it is and is very relevant then go for it.

Spammy Twitter links won't be allowed.

yea.

I already do that, or at least try to do that.

But if anyone feels I do post "Spammy Twitter links" anyway, please do call me out.

with that said, I don't think Spammy Twitter links is the point to suggesting a ban on Twitter links here.

I personally would prefer if we didn't post them but I understand they currently are still an active way to get/share sports information.

yea.

sports information for sure.

and just generally, still among the best sources for real-time breaking news, for better or worse, and depending how credible the source behind the particular twitter link might be.

more often than not, twitter does nothing but regurgitate primary sources (often through a distorted lense)

BiggDick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:34 am and, given this most recent and most egregious example of the company being led by a shameless white supremacist, I too could get behind a twitter ban (I still hesitate to call it X just cuz I don't wanna validate Elon's bullshit)

but yea, it sucks that the alternative options for access to information are still limited.

They exist, if you bother looking.

oh, hey!

I thought you, regrettably, put me on ignore.

But I am pleased to see we are actually still in contact.

since you brought it up, what alternative options to access information do you prefer?

I use the Guardian UK.

For statistics, I sometimes check lexisnexis.com

Also, NPR.*

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:19 am I personally would prefer if we didn't post them but I understand they currently are still an active way to get/share sports information.

Unfortunately they are an active way for me to be reminded of what a fucked up world I live in too.
If I was smart enough and wealthy enough, I just might try to figure out a way to go after Musk (and Jack Dorsey and Neal Glass and whoever else) for creating the shithole that I as a addict became addicted to - by their possibly using hidden manipulative practices to get me hooked?
Of course it's a lot more shame on me than shame on them but it's still shame on them. Assholes.

I apologize to everyone on here if they are highly anti-Twitter - because I post a lot of shit on here that I see on Twitter.
Most (but definitely not all) of what I feel are of actual value to others - for you all to see.
To me, way too much of Twitter is evil and the dark side.

The flip side is, I purposely "follow" people/places/things on Instagram that make me happy, I find interesting, and give me pleasure.

Facebook - For ME, not good but not terrible.

TikTok - NO GOOD for ME. I don't really get it. Dance, do something stupid, take a shit, whatever, while someone records it, then shares it, and the next thing they know - a million people know who they are and they make money because of it.
I have no doubt there is SOME good content but for ME, 95% of it is cacadookie.

Sorry! Back to Nazis and randy feeling the need to lecture us on how Nazism isn't relevant in 2025.

But haven't the nazis suffered enough?

Today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day. The date of January 27 was selected because it is the anniversary of the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz, the largest of the Nazi killing centers and concentration camps, where more than a million people, mostly Jews, were murdered.

World leaders have assembled today at the site of the former camp in Poland, joining a dwindling group of survivors to pay respect to the victims of Nazism, to commemorate the victory over Nazism, and to ensure the world does not forget.

There’s an American delegation, which includes Steve Witkoff, President Donald Trump’s Middle East envoy, Howard Lutnick, Trump’s nominee for secretary of commerce, and Charles Kushner, our likely next ambassador to France.

The delegations from other countries include somewhat more senior figures, including Britain’s King Charles III, French Prime Minister Emmanuel Macron, and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Even though the Soviet army liberated Auschwitz, Russia is not represented, as Vladimir Putin has been disinvited since the brutal assault on his peaceful neighbor, Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a key leader of the free world, is present.

And Germany is appropriately represented by its president, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and by its outgoing chancellor, Olaf Scholz, and his likely successor, Friedrich Merz.

Elon Musk presumably does not approve of their attendance.

Musk spoke by video Saturday to a rally of his favorite foreign political party, the Alternative für Deutschland. It’s the one German party that seeks to minimize the importance of the Holocaust, and Musk told them what they wanted to hear: “I think there is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that. Children should not feel guilty for the sins of their parents—their great grandparents even.”

What is one to make of this? I was struck by this excellent tweet thread by the German historian Martin Sauerbrey yesterday, which I think is very much worth reading (I have cleaned up a few typos):

Since Musk vented the myth of a “cult of guilt” in Germany (and subsequently Austria), a few words on this topic.

When Musk addressed the AfD he used a narrative that’s one of the favorites of the new (far) right in Austria and Germany: That “we” finally have to lay the past to rest and stop discussing and remembering what happened during the National Socialists’ reign of terror. In this narrative the “guilt” is holding back and hampering Germans and Austrians to perform at their best.

This “cult”—the narrative goes on—was imposed on us by the Allies (and Jews) who wanted to chain us in darkness forever. These chains have to be broken in order to fully embrace our potential. Subsequently a new “national identity” has to be established.

It should be quite obvious that this narrative is utter nonsense, as both Austria and Germany performed exceedingly well (with massive support from the Allies) after WWII, and rank amongst the richest countries in the world. . . .

Sauerbrey continues from there, in a more personal vein:

As a historian who is confronted on a daily basis with the crimes of the Nazi regime I actually can comprehend why many want to believe that their relatives were “good guys.” I myself only learned in my thirties that one branch of my family were staunch National Socialists.

And I had to do my own research because nobody told me. They were just “fine people.” The thing is: There is no need to feel guilty about what my great grandfather did. I am not responsible for that. What I am responsible for is how I handle this past.

I can make sure that what happened is not forgotten. I can make sure that I will do everything I can to explain how these terrible things were made possible. I can do that by not denying or sugar coating what my ancestors did or made possible by silent approval.

I will do everything I can to oppose those who try to make those things forgotten and who capitalize on the Nazi sentiments still prevalent in our societies. The Austrian and German societies should actually be proud that they finally managed—however incompletely and flawed—to engage with this dark past in a serious way.

So. There is no reason to feel ashamed of what your ancestors did, but you sure as hell are to be ashamed if you won’t acknowledge what has happened and what the role of our ancestors was. You should feel ashamed if you help those who want to get rid of all the achievements made in remembering and processing our terrible past, those who want to get rid of democracy, human rights and basic human decency.

Suerbrey speaks, obviously, as a German, and as a historian of Germany. Our history here in the United States is very different. But insofar as Musk—and Trump—have contempt for the achievements of the post-World War II order, Professor Sauerbrey’s admonitions should speak to us as well. Is “America First” not our version of rewriting history? Is “MAGA” not our attempt to escape our current challenges and responsibilities?

Elon Musk’s crude intervention in German politics is very unfortunate. But if it can help awaken us to what is at stake at this moment, not just here but across the world, perhaps it will have inadvertently served a useful purpose.

Now do the lost cause glorification of Confederate leaders in the U.S.

japhy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:23 am But haven't the nazis suffered enough?

Today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day. The date of January 27 was selected because it is the anniversary of the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz, the largest of the Nazi killing centers and concentration camps, where more than a million people, mostly Jews, were murdered.

World leaders have assembled today at the site of the former camp in Poland, joining a dwindling group of survivors to pay respect to the victims of Nazism, to commemorate the victory over Nazism, and to ensure the world does not forget.

There’s an American delegation, which includes Steve Witkoff, President Donald Trump’s Middle East envoy, Howard Lutnick, Trump’s nominee for secretary of commerce, and Charles Kushner, our likely next ambassador to France.

The delegations from other countries include somewhat more senior figures, including Britain’s King Charles III, French Prime Minister Emmanuel Macron, and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Even though the Soviet army liberated Auschwitz, Russia is not represented, as Vladimir Putin has been disinvited since the brutal assault on his peaceful neighbor, Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a key leader of the free world, is present.

And Germany is appropriately represented by its president, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and by its outgoing chancellor, Olaf Scholz, and his likely successor, Friedrich Merz.

Elon Musk presumably does not approve of their attendance.

Musk spoke by video Saturday to a rally of his favorite foreign political party, the Alternative für Deutschland. It’s the one German party that seeks to minimize the importance of the Holocaust, and Musk told them what they wanted to hear: “I think there is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that. Children should not feel guilty for the sins of their parents—their great grandparents even.”

What is one to make of this? I was struck by this excellent tweet thread by the German historian Martin Sauerbrey yesterday, which I think is very much worth reading (I have cleaned up a few typos):

Since Musk vented the myth of a “cult of guilt” in Germany (and subsequently Austria), a few words on this topic.

When Musk addressed the AfD he used a narrative that’s one of the favorites of the new (far) right in Austria and Germany: That “we” finally have to lay the past to rest and stop discussing and remembering what happened during the National Socialists’ reign of terror. In this narrative the “guilt” is holding back and hampering Germans and Austrians to perform at their best.

This “cult”—the narrative goes on—was imposed on us by the Allies (and Jews) who wanted to chain us in darkness forever. These chains have to be broken in order to fully embrace our potential. Subsequently a new “national identity” has to be established.

It should be quite obvious that this narrative is utter nonsense, as both Austria and Germany performed exceedingly well (with massive support from the Allies) after WWII, and rank amongst the richest countries in the world. . . .

Sauerbrey continues from there, in a more personal vein:

As a historian who is confronted on a daily basis with the crimes of the Nazi regime I actually can comprehend why many want to believe that their relatives were “good guys.” I myself only learned in my thirties that one branch of my family were staunch National Socialists.

And I had to do my own research because nobody told me. They were just “fine people.” The thing is: There is no need to feel guilty about what my great grandfather did. I am not responsible for that. What I am responsible for is how I handle this past.

I can make sure that what happened is not forgotten. I can make sure that I will do everything I can to explain how these terrible things were made possible. I can do that by not denying or sugar coating what my ancestors did or made possible by silent approval.

I will do everything I can to oppose those who try to make those things forgotten and who capitalize on the Nazi sentiments still prevalent in our societies. The Austrian and German societies should actually be proud that they finally managed—however incompletely and flawed—to engage with this dark past in a serious way.

So. There is no reason to feel ashamed of what your ancestors did, but you sure as hell are to be ashamed if you won’t acknowledge what has happened and what the role of our ancestors was. You should feel ashamed if you help those who want to get rid of all the achievements made in remembering and processing our terrible past, those who want to get rid of democracy, human rights and basic human decency.

Suerbrey speaks, obviously, as a German, and as a historian of Germany. Our history here in the United States is very different. But insofar as Musk—and Trump—have contempt for the achievements of the post-World War II order, Professor Sauerbrey’s admonitions should speak to us as well. Is “America First” not our version of rewriting history? Is “MAGA” not our attempt to escape our current challenges and responsibilities?

Elon Musk’s crude intervention in German politics is very unfortunate. But if it can help awaken us to what is at stake at this moment, not just here but across the world, perhaps it will have inadvertently served a useful purpose.

Now do the lost cause glorification of Confederate leaders in the U.S.

or the cavalry and white settlers…

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:59 am
or the cavalry and white settlers…

I was watching the movie "Kneecap" on Saturday night instead of the Jayhawks....sense of foreboding.

At one point in the movie the dad tells the boys to watch a western and think about it from the standpoint of the "Indians". Later the boys refer to the cowboys as "cunts".

Good movie by the way.

I remember going to Santa Fe for the first time and saw the statue in the square and seeing the word "savages" scratched out.



This is what a Confederacy memorial should like, this is the embodiment of the "Lost Cause".

so, South Africa?

all just coincidence, i’m sure

What do you have against free speech?

been a game of cat and mouse in downtown Denver. Some idiot put swastikas in his windows. Folks have been throwing rocks to bust the windows out. He replaced them, put more swastikas, and now cops are patrolling 24/7 trying to catch rock throwers.