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Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:50 am
by japhy
Shirley wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:39 am Speaking of the Lions - Cowgirls game:



Don't watch this:

I am not looking, I don't need to see that.

I have a feeling that over the next few weeks we might see a Super Bowl preview. A lot of potential "revenge game" setups in the Chief's schedule.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:09 pm
by jfish26
japhy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:50 am
Shirley wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:39 am Speaking of the Lions - Cowgirls game:



Don't watch this:

I am not looking, I don't need to see that.

I have a feeling that over the next few weeks we might see a Super Bowl preview. A lot of potential "revenge game" setups in the Chief's schedule.
The Mahomes Era will be marked by how many supposed contenders rise and fall without peeing a meaningful drop.

Most of their falls involve quarterbacks maturing into market comp (at which point their teams’ rosters deteriorate). These would be your Bills and Bengals and Jags and Chargers and, you’d guess, Texans next.

The Lions are a little different, but appear determined to get there by injury and general organizational bad juju.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm
by japhy
To say that Mahomes has played his career and contracts smartly is an understatement. It is hard to take in how many QBs and teams have risen and fallen during his short tenure. A three peat and his legacy as top 2 all-time is pretty assured.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:37 pm
by jfish26
japhy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm To say that Mahomes has played his career and contracts smartly is an understatement. It is hard to take in how many QBs and teams have risen and fallen during his short tenure. A three peat and his legacy as top 2 all-time is pretty assured.
In my view, if he wraps up the three-peat, that’s as strong of a “team success” argument as Brady’s seven rings. Or, if you won’t go that far, at least a strong enough team success argument such that Mahomes’ obvious individual accomplishment edge pushes the whole thing past Brady.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:37 pm
by japhy
jfish26 wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:37 pm
japhy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:27 pm To say that Mahomes has played his career and contracts smartly is an understatement. It is hard to take in how many QBs and teams have risen and fallen during his short tenure. A three peat and his legacy as top 2 all-time is pretty assured.
In my view, if he wraps up the three-peat, that’s as strong of a “team success” argument as Brady’s seven rings. Or, if you won’t go that far, at least a strong enough team success argument such that Mahomes’ obvious individual accomplishment edge pushes the whole thing past Brady.
When Mahomes and Reid retire there is a real chance I just stop watching the NFL. When Sunday rolls around I will pick an old Chiefs game and watch it again.

I remember hearing Chris Piper interviewed in the early 90's. They asked him if he still played basketball, rec league, anything? He said no. The last game of basketball he would ever play was the 1988 NC, he wanted that to be his last memory of playing the game. Not a bad way to go out.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:32 pm
by Overlander
Ok, who does Rogers throw under the bus tomorrow?

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am
by pdub
Overlander wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:32 pm Ok, who does Rogers throw under the bus tomorrow?
Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:41 am
by jfish26
Good fucking riddance, hopefully.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am
Overlander wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:32 pm Ok, who does Rogers throw under the bus tomorrow?
Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.
More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:00 am
by jfish26
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am
Overlander wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:32 pm Ok, who does Rogers throw under the bus tomorrow?
Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.
More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.
And, to what end exactly? The Jets' ceiling is...being the third best team in the AFC? For one or up to even two years?

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:20 am
by pdub
jfish26 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:00 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am

Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.
More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.
And, to what end exactly? The Jets' ceiling is...being the third best team in the AFC? For one or up to even two years?
Oh man, I don't even know if that's their ceiling.
KC, Houston, Balty just seem in a different class than this current Aaron Rodgers.

I think they are holding on to the delusion Aaron can still lead them somewhere - because they haven't been anywhere in so long. I think at best they get one of the last wildcard spots only to be a sacrifice to the Chiefs or Ravens.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:29 am
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:20 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:00 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am

More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.
And, to what end exactly? The Jets' ceiling is...being the third best team in the AFC? For one or up to even two years?
Oh man, I don't even know if that's their ceiling.
KC, Houston, Balty just seem in a different class than this current Aaron Rodgers.

I think they are holding on to the delusion Aaron can still lead them somewhere - because they haven't been anywhere in so long. I think at best they get one of the last wildcard spots only to be a sacrifice to the Chiefs or Ravens.
I agree completely. I think they're in the AFC's middle class, with the Bills, Bengals and Dolphins (prior to Tua going boink again).

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:58 pm
by japhy
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am
Overlander wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:32 pm Ok, who does Rogers throw under the bus tomorrow?
Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.
More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.
The Raiders, passing the mantle of worst managed team in the NFL to the Jets. Smart move.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:38 pm
by pdub
japhy wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:58 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:36 am

Right?
2-4 Jets.
That's a lot of money invested for no results.
More money invested today. Davante Adams is a Jet. Or soon to be one.
The Raiders, passing the mantle of worst managed team in the NFL to the Jets. Smart move.
Oooh, there's other candidates out there fighting for spots.
Cleveland is no slouch.
The Commandskins and the Panthers would also like a word.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:42 pm
by pdub
Bills beat us to Amari Cooper.
It ultimately took a 3rd round pick which might be a touch high for a 1/2 year rental.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:31 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:42 pm Bills beat us to Amari Cooper.
It ultimately took a 3rd round pick which might be a touch high for a 1/2 year rental.
I woulda been ok - pained by, but ok - with the price.

That said, at this time last year Rice, who doesn’t have nearly Worthy’s pedigree, had done less than Worthy already has.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:33 pm
by pdub
If Worthy goes and becomes as valuable as Rice was in the 2nd half of the season, well, after Rice's suspension next season the Chiefs will have more than solved their WR problem at very low cost.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:08 pm
by DeletedUser
Rodgers and Adams reunited.

Will it matter?

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:18 pm
by twocoach
DeletedUser wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:08 pm Rodgers and Adams reunited.

Will it matter?
Adams goes from the dysfunctional Raiders organization to the dysfunctional Jets organization. What a waste of talent.

Re: NFL Season 2024

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:24 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:31 pm
pdub wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:42 pm Bills beat us to Amari Cooper.
It ultimately took a 3rd round pick which might be a touch high for a 1/2 year rental.
I woulda been ok - pained by, but ok - with the price.

That said, at this time last year Rice, who doesn’t have nearly Worthy’s pedigree, had done less than Worthy already has.
Agreed, they're pretty comparable.

Rice had 17 receptions for 173 and 2 TDs through 5 games last year with just a single carry for -3 yards.
Worthy has 12 receptions for 179 yards and 2 TDs through 5 games this year with 6 carries for 42 yards and 2 additional TDs.

I don't think KC needs to mortgage the future to get a temporary replacement for Worthy. They probably need another warm body just in case of injury. We'll see how all the 3 and 4 TE looks go moving forward.