Kansas Crimson

If i'm at my rents house and I test negative, I feel safe enough to know I won't be giving it to them, so after that i'd not wear my mask around them and just keep to their house for the time I was there.
I'm not as concerned if I were to get it - just concerned to pass it to them.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:55 am I'm hoping testing will be faster/more available by then too - so that if I arrive in KC, I could keep my mask on for the first day or two, and take a test there.

As far as bars/restaurants, i've been out at a few - the servers are wearing masks - and have always been outdoors.

The issue is testing is going the wrong way with speed. The first test I had was in late May, and I had my results in about 24 hours. The second test I had was in late July, and I had results on Day 10.

Still incredibly difficult to even get a test here in KC.

We average a 48 hr turnaround here in ruraltown usa. Id think cities could do better.

Kicker is. Coworkers wife is a nurse, ICU nurse. She apparently has access to staff tests which give them results in 10-15 minutes which they take every week.

Testing in my area is hit or miss on turnaround time depending on where you go. My Mom had a test and had results in an hour. Know people who it took almost a week to hear back. Know 1 guy who got tested and they lost it and he had to get tested again.

Speaking of Sturgis and the pictures in this related article I have three observations (no judgment but just observations): no masks of any significant numbers; attendees are exclusively white, and predominantly overweight (men and women). There may also be an age component to this, as in a vast majority seem to be 40-yo or older

Is there any sociological significance or explanation?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/phot ... d-sd-rally

Because........they're bikers?

Hogs riding hogs.

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:54 am Speaking of Sturgis and the pictures in this related article I have three observations (no judgment but just observations): no masks of any significant numbers; attendees are exclusively white, and predominantly overweight (men and women). There may also be an age component to this, as in a vast majority seem to be 40-yo or older

Is there any sociological significance or explanation?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/phot ... d-sd-rally

Assumptions only here. I think it's not just that this event is going on with an expected quarter million people. I think a huge issue is there is probably a stigma wearing masks will lead to peer pressure to not wear masks.

Hoping for the best for South Dakota.

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:54 am Speaking of Sturgis and the pictures in this related article I have three observations (no judgment but just observations): no masks of any significant numbers; attendees are exclusively white, and predominantly overweight (men and women). There may also be an age component to this, as in a vast majority seem to be 40-yo or older

Is there any sociological significance or explanation?

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/phot ... d-sd-rally

Sounds like a good time to be in the market for a used bike.

shindig wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:53 am I haven't been in a bar/restaurant since March either. Picked up a few pizzas at Waldo Pizza a couple times, but they have drive up service. I also haven't flown anywhere. Was going to go to Ouray, CO with some buddies, but decided I didn't want to fly. One buddy is driving, but he's taking a couple days to drive heading out there and then a couple days coming back. Too much windshield time for me. I think Ousy said it was about a 14 hour drive from KC...no thanks. I also don't want to burn several days of vacation driving. So, maybe next year.

My daughter and I made Mesa Verde in 15 hours from KC. Long drive but it's doable. Ouray isn't too far from there.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^YES.

In April the curves for US and EU looked very similar and the cases were essentially the same number. Then we went in different directions.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:02 pm

shindig wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:53 am I haven't been in a bar/restaurant since March either. Picked up a few pizzas at Waldo Pizza a couple times, but they have drive up service. I also haven't flown anywhere. Was going to go to Ouray, CO with some buddies, but decided I didn't want to fly. One buddy is driving, but he's taking a couple days to drive heading out there and then a couple days coming back. Too much windshield time for me. I think Ousy said it was about a 14 hour drive from KC...no thanks. I also don't want to burn several days of vacation driving. So, maybe next year.

My daughter and I made Mesa Verde in 15 hours from KC. Long drive but it's doable. Ouray isn't too far from there.

I have a really hard time sitting that long in a car...I just get so restless. And the drive back Sunday would have me depressed thinking about it and would probably ruin most of the trip...lol

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:28 pm

I hate to be flip, but we all knew this in April. But Mich wanted to take his boat out, and all the other "freedom fighters" put us where we are now. We could've shut down, and kept the virus in New York, but instead dummies across the country kept going out and spreading the virus.

I think New Zealand is now at 100 days of zero community spread cases, and everything has been normal there. Here, we have 6-7 jetliners blowing up a day, and people still want to take their Yamahas to South Dakota because they can't put on Netflix and have a beer with their families.

I think that's right.

I think we (me included, very much) also took false hope in what was happening in Italy/Spain/the UK/etc., and didn't think enough about how our geography and demographics made us much more vulnerable to this thing lasting much longer.

For instance, the Northeast US (as defined by the census bureau) has approximately the same population as all of Italy. Except, when the Northeast US tamped it down (as it did), the infection was just beginning to take root in the South.

And so on and so forth. We are susceptible to rounds of this in ways other countries are not. And all it takes is one city/region to get complacent (or be idiots) for this to just keep running around.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/10/investin ... index.html


Thank god for that stimulus money. Buying the important stuff. Worth the trillions of debt.

Hell. Lets do it again

we should have stopped all non essential travel when new york was blowing up. But freedom and such. I am torn on it. I see both sides of it. But i personally thought not shutting down airlines was stupid (both international and travel between states). We should have really locked down instead of pretending to lock down while really only shutting down gyms/restaurants/bars/movie theatres. Seems like most everything else was open.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:08 pm we should have stopped all non essential travel when new york was blowing up. But freedom and such. I am torn on it. I see both sides of it. But i personally thought not shutting down airlines was stupid (both international and travel between states). We should have really locked down instead of pretending to lock down while really only shutting down gyms/restaurants/bars/movie theatres. Seems like most everything else was open.

Our (very, very weird) cultural allergy to masks was ultimately as damning as anything else.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:08 pm we should have stopped all non essential travel when new york was blowing up. But freedom and such. I am torn on it. I see both sides of it. But i personally thought not shutting down airlines was stupid (both international and travel between states). We should have really locked down instead of pretending to lock down while really only shutting down gyms/restaurants/bars/movie theatres. Seems like most everything else was open.

I think most travel kinda stopped in late March, early April. This also slowed the spread, as there was about four-five hotspots(NYC area, Detroit, LA, Cali, Wash state), and no one was going to those spots. But people were still going around their own town, and the virus was slowing spreading there.