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Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:03 pm
by TDub
me too

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:09 pm
by ousdahl
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:57 am How long before my fridge and slow cooker are subscription based packages?

also....saves you time....to do...what? surf the internet more? eat more popcorn?

I also think there is a sense of accomplishment when tasks (even simple, mindless tasks) are completed that give people a sense of worth. I did that...I accomplished that. Even simple things build character, confidence and self value. If we rely on technology for every step of the process how much of that goes away? How much of our growing depression problem is centered around people feeling like they have no self worth.

It may be stupid....but mow the lawn, change a tire.....they are all things that, especially young people, need to grow skills, problem solving abilities and help with accomplishment/confidence.
I wonder how much of a growing depression problem comes from factors like technology doing more and more for us (when, I agree, a sense of worth can come from accomplishing things!)

versus depression problems coming from things like the commercialization and monetization of abso-fucking-lutely everything (see your comment on subscriptions to use your fridge)

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:10 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:57 am How long before my fridge and slow cooker are subscription based packages?

also....saves you time....to do...what? surf the internet more? eat more popcorn?

I also think there is a sense of accomplishment when tasks (even simple, mindless tasks) are completed that give people a sense of worth. I did that...I accomplished that. Even simple things build character, confidence and self value. If we rely on technology for every step of the process how much of that goes away? How much of our growing depression problem is centered around people feeling like they have no self worth.

It may be stupid....but mow the lawn, change a tire.....they are all things that, especially young people, need to grow skills, problem solving abilities and help with accomplishment/confidence.
You can use the stuff, or not, not sure I could care less. Just seems like a choice to get triggered and annoyed by it or at people that use it on their own time in their own homes.

But then to judge people's character off of it? That's just a MICH move.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:28 pm
by TDub
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:10 pm
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:57 am How long before my fridge and slow cooker are subscription based packages?

also....saves you time....to do...what? surf the internet more? eat more popcorn?

I also think there is a sense of accomplishment when tasks (even simple, mindless tasks) are completed that give people a sense of worth. I did that...I accomplished that. Even simple things build character, confidence and self value. If we rely on technology for every step of the process how much of that goes away? How much of our growing depression problem is centered around people feeling like they have no self worth.

It may be stupid....but mow the lawn, change a tire.....they are all things that, especially young people, need to grow skills, problem solving abilities and help with accomplishment/confidence.
You can use the stuff, or not, not sure I could care less. Just seems like a choice to get triggered and annoyed by it or at people that use it on their own time in their own homes.

But then to judge people's character off of it? That's just a MICH move.
im clearly stating its an opinion, my opinion. Im not "triggered" by it (another new trend I dislike). Simply stating I dont like it. My point about character is being around young people its fun watching their joy in accomplishing things by themselves, and teaching them to be able to accomplishing things by themselves. My point about character is that struggling to do things, working through issues, working on scheduling and time management are all important character building opportunities.

Im not saying if you have a wifi fridge you have no character or bad character. That's you misinterpreting my end of the discussion.

I thought discussing things on.....a discussion message board...was kinda what we did here. Apologies for disagreeing with the consensus and fighting your progress.....

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:29 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:09 pm
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:57 am How long before my fridge and slow cooker are subscription based packages?

also....saves you time....to do...what? surf the internet more? eat more popcorn?

I also think there is a sense of accomplishment when tasks (even simple, mindless tasks) are completed that give people a sense of worth. I did that...I accomplished that. Even simple things build character, confidence and self value. If we rely on technology for every step of the process how much of that goes away? How much of our growing depression problem is centered around people feeling like they have no self worth.

It may be stupid....but mow the lawn, change a tire.....they are all things that, especially young people, need to grow skills, problem solving abilities and help with accomplishment/confidence.
I wonder how much of a growing depression problem comes from factors like technology doing more and more for us (when, I agree, a sense of worth can come from accomplishing things!)

versus depression problems coming from things like the commercialization and monetization of abso-fucking-lutely everything (see your comment on subscriptions to use your fridge)
At the risk of agreeing with you.......I think its not unreasonable to say its a combination of many things...but those two things I believe certainly play a roll.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:31 pm
by Overlander
The Last Of Us is pretty freaking good

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:35 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:28 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:10 pm
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:57 am How long before my fridge and slow cooker are subscription based packages?

also....saves you time....to do...what? surf the internet more? eat more popcorn?

I also think there is a sense of accomplishment when tasks (even simple, mindless tasks) are completed that give people a sense of worth. I did that...I accomplished that. Even simple things build character, confidence and self value. If we rely on technology for every step of the process how much of that goes away? How much of our growing depression problem is centered around people feeling like they have no self worth.

It may be stupid....but mow the lawn, change a tire.....they are all things that, especially young people, need to grow skills, problem solving abilities and help with accomplishment/confidence.
You can use the stuff, or not, not sure I could care less. Just seems like a choice to get triggered and annoyed by it or at people that use it on their own time in their own homes.

But then to judge people's character off of it? That's just a MICH move.
im clearly stating its an opinion, my opinion. Im not "triggered" by it (another new trend I dislike). Simply stating I dont like it. My point about character is being around young people its fun watching their joy in accomplishing things by themselves, and teaching them to be able to accomplishing things by themselves. My point about character is that struggling to do things, working through issues, working on scheduling and time management are all important character building opportunities.

Im not saying if you have a wifi fridge you have no character or bad character. That's you misinterpreting my end of the discussion.

I thought discussing things on.....a discussion message board...was kinda what we did here. Apologies for disagreeing with the consensus and fighting your progress.....
I do agree with the idea of things like: learn how to count change back and then use tech for the easy answer after you know how to do it, etc., there's a big list here we could come up with. I'm with you on that.

I think using tech to save time and money makes the tech worthwhile and doesn't say anything about anyone. And, of course, people can utilize it or not. Except cruise control. That shit should be mandated. Also, stop writing checks at the grocery store.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:41 pm
by TDub
I sort of agree with the use it or dont sentiment.....except an increasing number of items require it to function. I think thats beyond dumb.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:45 pm
by ousdahl
I think there's enough fellow millennials in particular to appreciate this, but:

remember when our grade school math teachers told us we had to show our work cuz it's not like we're gonna end up with calculators in our pockets everywhere we go?

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:46 pm
by ousdahl
heck, remember those Texas Instruments calculators we had to buy that cost damn near as much as a smart phone anyway?

go figure the number one most useful function on those things was 8008135

actually, do math classes still require students to buy those things?

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:47 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TDub wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:41 pm I sort of agree with the use it or dont sentiment.....except an increasing number of items require it to function. I think thats beyond dumb.
The subscription services to utilize things that are already on your car is about peak asshole design.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:51 pm
by pdub
The fact that I find something over the top and unnecessary and then posting about it on a message bored != triggered.

I would never get a Peleton. Or a wifi slow cooker. Not for me.
If you want to use that stuff, go for it.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:00 pm
by pdub
Overlander wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:31 pm The Last Of Us is pretty freaking good
Up to 99% on Rotten Tomatoes!

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:11 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:46 pm heck, remember those Texas Instruments calculators we had to buy that cost damn near as much as a smart phone anyway?

go figure the number one most useful function on those things was 8008135

actually, do math classes still require students to buy those things?
they were only like $80.....and they can do a lot more than your phone can. Including calculus equations and graphing capabilities.

or maybe your phone can do that....I dunno.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:15 pm
by ousdahl
yea, I dunno if anyone else has this model yet.



- Sent from my iPhone 15


(for real you should see the detail and clarity of the graphics on these 8008135!)

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:26 pm
by KUTradition
i remember my first TI-85

i also remember when it got stolen…asshole

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:31 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I hate that the TI-83 and above was/is a required purchase. Stressed out a lot of public school parents.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:34 pm
by ousdahl
yea, I recall that too.

Surely there had to be some sorta assistance program for those who needed it? Maybe? Hopefully?

In a sense I guess it's turning even math class into yet another subscription-based service of sorts.

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:44 pm
by ousdahl
pols bored alert: my cynical self thought, I wonder if Texas Instruments lobbies lawmakers or school boreds or whatever to make it so every student has to buy their own calculator (rather than, say, schools just providing it, especially since like 99% of students will never use them again after completing a select few classes)

and, without necessarily digging that deep, a cursory search yields the question:

why exactly does a calculator company have its own political action committee?

(...besides the plainly stated objective of "contributions to political candidates based on several criteria including candidates’ voting records and positions that align with TI’s business priorities...")

https://www.ti.com/about-ti/public-poli ... html#tipac

Re: Finding New Shit on TV

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:51 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:51 am vikings valhalla season 2 is available for your watching pleasure.
Finished it last night.