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Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:11 pm
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:06 pm
mjl2 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:52 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:29 pm
I see no realistic path to Trump being beat in the primaries and not winning the nomination. His base is simply too committed to this absurdity. It's Ride Or Die at this point.
Do you see what I am saying though? His base also hates the vaccine, which he helped deliver. They also loathe Fauci, who Trump put in front of the country
That would require the application of common sense and internal review, which I honestly haven't seen from many Trump base voters. The people who do that sort of honest assessment have already bailed on Trump and either left the GOP Party entirely or have moved on to some other GOP nominee. His base is pretty baked in at this point absent a thorough and convincing conviction.
it’s the same level of logic behind the idea that the election was rigged only against trump (and not all the other down-ballot pubs that won)

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:12 pm
by jfish26
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:10 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:06 pm
mjl2 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:52 pm

Do you see what I am saying though? His base also hates the vaccine, which he helped deliver. They also loathe Fauci, who Trump put in front of the country
That would require the application of common sense and internal review, which I honestly haven't seen from many Trump base voters. The people who do that sort of honest assessment have already bailed on Trump and either left the GOP Party entirely or have moved on to some other GOP nominee. His base is pretty baked in at this point absent a thorough and convincing conviction.
Especially because Trump’s base will do as it’s told. If Trump comes out and says everything Covid related was Soros/deep state…his base will simply go along with it.
To wit.


Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:46 pm

It is apparent that Vivek’s faux-intellectual buzzwording has landed with at least a portion of the rubes.
People love how committed to The Big Lie all these clowns are. The whole "polls show that people would have changed their vote if Hunter Biden laptop was not reported to be disinformation" is so wildly misunderstood, misused and misapplied. Vivek is just parroting the same stupidity.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:17 pm
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:46 pm

It is apparent that Vivek’s faux-intellectual buzzwording has landed with at least a portion of the rubes.
People love how committed to The Big Lie all these clowns are. The whole "polls show that people would have changed their vote if Hunter Biden laptop was not reported to be disinformation" is so wildly misunderstood, misused and misapplied. Vivek is just parroting the same stupidity.
As always the massive underlying logic gaps are glossed over.

If what the pubs claim - to this point without evidence, and not for lack of trying - about Hunter is TRUE, then maybe the results would have been different.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:58 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:46 pm

It is apparent that Vivek’s faux-intellectual buzzwording has landed with at least a portion of the rubes.
People love how committed to The Big Lie all these clowns are. The whole "polls show that people would have changed their vote if Hunter Biden laptop was not reported to be disinformation" is so wildly misunderstood, misused and misapplied. Vivek is just parroting the same stupidity.
As always the massive underlying logic gaps are glossed over.

If what the pubs claim - to this point without evidence, and not for lack of trying - about Hunter is TRUE, then maybe the results would have been different.
The grand total of the big cover up regarding Hunter's laptop was what specifically? That people weren't allowed to post wild assumptions and accusations about the contents when there was no legitimate list of the contents to date? I'd hardly call that the crime of the century or whatever Vivek was referring to it as.

So what we learned since then? That Hunter didn't declare all his income from Burisma and that he was a scumbag drug addict who took lots of random pictures of himself and his life. Wow, big election changer...

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:16 pm
by jfish26
As always - if there is evidence of lawbreaking, come with the evidence. Supposition isn’t evidence. Nor is playing connect the dots.

If Hunter has committed crimes, then he should be prosecuted to the same extent (and with the same defenses) as anyone similarly situated.

If Joe has committed crimes, then he should be prosecuted to the same extent (and with the same defenses) as anyone similarly situated.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:27 pm
by DCHawk1
twocoach wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:13 pm
jfish26 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:46 pm

It is apparent that Vivek’s faux-intellectual buzzwording has landed with at least a portion of the rubes.
People love how committed to The Big Lie all these clowns are. The whole "polls show that people would have changed their vote if Hunter Biden laptop was not reported to be disinformation" is so wildly misunderstood, misused and misapplied. Vivek is just parroting the same stupidity.
It kinda amazes me how much and how often "the big lie" is misunderstood, misused, and misapplied.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:54 pm
by Shirley

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:32 pm
by mjl2
Shirley wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:47 pm
mjl2 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:26 pm I think people are underestimating this guy. He appeals to sane pubs (even DC likes him, for instance), but also has a pretty solid mastery of the ethos (there's a better word that's escaping me) of the crazy/moronic pubs.

I think he's going to have a significant rise in the polls after Wednesday.

And then his opponents are going to dig up "liberal" or "woke" stuff he has done/said in the past. Will be interesting to see if he can withstand that.
mjI2 wrote:"...He...also has a pretty solid mastery of the ethos (there's a better word that's escaping me) of the crazy/moronic pubs."


The word you're looking for is "aggrievement", i.e., "hate".
Zeitgeist. That's what I was looking for.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:49 pm
by Shirley
mjl2 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:32 pm
Shirley wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:47 pm
mjl2 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:26 pm I think people are underestimating this guy. He appeals to sane pubs (even DC likes him, for instance), but also has a pretty solid mastery of the ethos (there's a better word that's escaping me) of the crazy/moronic pubs.

I think he's going to have a significant rise in the polls after Wednesday.

And then his opponents are going to dig up "liberal" or "woke" stuff he has done/said in the past. Will be interesting to see if he can withstand that.
mjI2 wrote:"...He...also has a pretty solid mastery of the ethos (there's a better word that's escaping me) of the crazy/moronic pubs."


The word you're looking for is "aggrievement", i.e., "hate".
Zeitgeist. That's what I was looking for.
^^^

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:02 pm
by Sparko
Swamp gas. That was the methane released by climate change and bullshit we were looking for. But lovely parting grifts.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:16 am
by jfish26

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:22 am
by KUTradition
smells kinda trumpy

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:33 am
by MICHHAWK
i gotta give the man his credit. he sure does have the propaganda machine all spun up.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:34 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:33 am i gotta give the man his credit. he sure does have the propaganda machine all spun up.
Ok, you tell his story then. I’ll wait.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:35 am
by MICHHAWK
seems like he has tapped into the same spicket barracks obama did.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:40 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:35 am seems like he has tapped into the same spicket barracks obama did.
Out of curiosity, how do you go about choosing whose names to purposefully misspell? Because it happens a lot. Wondering if there’s a common thread.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:44 am
by KUTradition
lol

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:46 am
by Overlander
jfish26 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:40 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:35 am seems like he has tapped into the same spicket barracks obama did.
Out of curiosity, how do you go about choosing whose names to purposefully misspell? Because it happens a lot. Wondering if there’s a common thread.
"spicket"

And this fucker votes.....

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:47 am
by KUTradition
suppling the tit