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Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:12 pm
by PhDhawk
TDub wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:05 pmHere we go again
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Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:15 pm
by pdub
"I would tend to think that nothing would promote all the virtues of college better than expanding access to it, particularly among demographics with very low college attendance."

Expanding access being converting college more into how to make money now by any means rather than, you know, actually going to classes.

Like saying we can get our kids to eat more vegetables if we coat them in hershey's syrup and sprinkles.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:17 pm
by Deleted User 89
is there anything to support the idea that kids would stay in school longer, or go at all, if they were allowed to capitalize financially?

i know we’d like to think that would happen, but the grass is always greener...

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:17 pm
by pdub
"But the powers that be in college basketball should realize that a kid who seemed to have no academic issues choosing to play in relative media anonymity is not a good sign."

It's a great sign for getting the kids who shouldn't be playing college basketball to begin with out of college basketball...i.e. what we've been discussing.

Loose 50 top high school kids to different leagues every year? College basketball will continue to exist.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:21 pm
by PhDhawk
pdub wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:17 pm

Loose 50 top high school kids to different leagues every year? College basketball will continue to exist.
And that's 50 more scholarships available to people, only those 50 would not likely ever have the opportunity to play professionally, so they'd benefit the most from education.

If you really want to maximize kids (from any demographic) getting access to college education opportunities, you'd want as many professionally ready players to go professional as possible.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:27 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
honkeyball

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:27 pm
by pdub
PhDhawk wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:21 pm
pdub wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:17 pm

Loose 50 top high school kids to different leagues every year? College basketball will continue to exist.
And that's 50 more scholarships available to people, only those 50 would not likely ever have the opportunity to play professionally, so they'd benefit the most from education.

If you really want to maximize kids (from any demographic) getting access to college education opportunities, you'd want as many professionally ready players to go professional as possible.
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Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:35 pm
by pdub
Advantage here?
Chai gets more PT - a dude who is a perfect example of Kansas basketball through and through.
I can and will root for Chai. RJ? Meh.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:50 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:35 pm Advantage here?
Chai gets more PT - a dude who is a perfect example of Kansas basketball through and through.
I can and will root for Chai. RJ? Meh.
I don't disagree, but I'm curious why you say this.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 12:52 pm
by pdub
Because he wants to be at Kansas and cares about it.
The RJ's or Grimes's of the world don't.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:00 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Would love to see a senior speech by Och, but God Save the Rules.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:06 pm
by PortlandHawk
I’d guess if RJ could earn money off of his own likeness, he would be a Jayhawk.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:06 pm
by shindig
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:00 pm Would love to see a senior speech by Och, but God Save the Rules.
Senior speeches are pretty much now left to the walk ons...

Ever since the 19 rule took affect, I have lost more and more interest in college hoops and even KU hoops. 10-15 years ago I never missed watching a KU game on the tube...the last 4-5 years, I've probably watched a total 10-15 games.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:14 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
shindig wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:06 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:00 pm Would love to see a senior speech by Och, but God Save the Rules.
Senior speeches are pretty much now left to the walk ons...

Ever since the 19 rule took affect, I have lost more and more interest in college hoops and even KU hoops. 10-15 years ago I never missed watching a KU game on the tube...the last 4-5 years, I've probably watched a total 10-15 games.
It's not the OAD "19" rule that you have an issue with.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 1:24 pm
by pdub
shindig wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:06 pm Senior speeches are pretty much now left to the walk ons...
Two seasons ago Vonte and Svi.
Three seasons ago Frank Mason and Landen Lucas.
Four seasons ago Perry Ellis and Jamari Traylor.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:10 pm
by twocoach
pdub wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 12:52 pm Because he wants to be at Kansas and cares about it.
The RJ's or Grimes's of the world don't.
Just a reminder that if some NBA team had told Agbaji that they'd take a 1st round flyer on him that he would be gone.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:12 pm
by twocoach
PortlandHawk wrote: Tue May 28, 2019 1:06 pm I’d guess if RJ could earn money off of his own likeness, he would be a Jayhawk.
I doubt it. Sounds like he preferred working full time on his game with no hassle of school as well.

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:24 pm
by pdub
“I met with him after the game and he came in with the other coaches and we sat down to talk,” said Agbaji. “He extended the offer to me. It was crazy to be in front of Bill Self and him offering me a scholarship, that’s a dream come true.”

“To the Kansas fans, I’m going to come in and be the hardest worker I can,” he said. “I will contribute as much as I can to make us a winning team.”

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:24 pm
by PhDhawk
PhDhawk wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 2:23 pm RJ to europe I'm counting it right, I really just meant play professionally overseas
Wilson stays in Mich Still unclear
Precious goes to Memphis I was right
And De Sousa looses his appeal Thank god I was wrong


I'm usually wrong though

Re: Recruiting 2019

Posted: Tue May 28, 2019 2:34 pm
by MICHHAWK
As long as the name on the front of the jersey reads KANSAS. I don't care what the back says.