Kansas Crimson

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:58 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:22 pm I am around 7-12 lbs over the standard BMI depending on the week.
That puts me in the overweight category.
If I died from COVID i'd be in that 80%.

I consider myself healthy.

My guess is randy might not quite be exactly in the BMI range he needs to be in either.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:58 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:12 pm Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:41 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:12 pm Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

What you miss about this situation is that you have lit on fire, over and over again, any benefit of the doubt as to your ability - let alone your willingness - to actually discuss culture war issues in good faith.

You start discussions from positions of inhumanity, ignorance, absolutism and bad faith. I don't know if you're intentionally doing that, or if you're just a follower. But it doesn't matter, really.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:16 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:41 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:12 pm Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:16 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:41 pm

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:50 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:16 pm

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:11 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:50 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 am

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

Believe it of not, I respect that YOU were "a lot less fearful" of Covid - than others.
I don't know if you were more "realistic" but you probably were in SOME regards but NOT all.
What I DON'T respect is/was your brushing off and ridiculing attitude towards others who were rightfully fearful of Covid and took precautions (yes - some extreme and dare I say in hindsight unnecessary and foolish?) for THEIR OWN VALID reasons.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:16 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:41 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:12 pm Basically the problem was the people are unhealthy to begin with

You're seeing the problem but drawing the wrong conclusion. It's because we have so many at-risk people in this country that we needed to take extreme measures to keep us from losing half our population you dolt.

Were all of the measures taken wise, well thought out and sensible? No, not all of them. Were some just overreactions from lawyers who didn't want their cities or businesses to be sued? Probably, yes. Did the measures save millions of lives? Unquestionably yes.

Or maybe people could just take simple measures to be healthier?

So the rest of us don't have to take extreme measures

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:11 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:50 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:31 am

I have taken "simple measures" to be healthier. I'm still overweight.
Seems according to what you say, I'm supposed to feel guilty and bad about that because YOU "have (had) to take extreme measures". To be brutally honest and maybe this makes me an asshole - I really don't feel too bad about it. Partially because precautions were put in place, I followed many/most of them, and to the best of my knowledge I never contracted Covid - and definitely wasn't hospitalized with it. Imagine that!

On a related note, I am fully confident YOU don't take every possible measure to be "healthier". Am I wrong?

I do more than most of you to stay healthy. Exercise at the gym most days, do a lot of hiking. Cook most of my own meals, eat a lot of fresh produce, Occasional fast food. Dont smoke or anything. I do drink alcohol, so that is one that known to not be good for you that im guilty of.

But yes, I am a lot younger, skinnier, and healthier than most of you on this board. Which is why I was a lot less fearful and a lot more realistic or everything covid

Believe it of not, I respect that YOU were "a lot less fearful" of Covid - than others.
I don't know if you were more "realistic" but you probably were in SOME regards but NOT all.
What I DON'T respect is/was your brushing off and ridiculing attitude towards others who were rightfully fearful of Covid and took precautions (yes - some extreme and dare I say in hindsight unnecessary and foolish?) for THEIR OWN VALID reasons.