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Trump sitting next to the universe's most ardent socialist awaiting sentencing. Christ and anti-christ. Nice juxtaposition really.

MAJOR BREAKING: Judge Engoron has just just ordered a gag order against Donald Trump for posting a false personal attack on the judge's clerk, attorney Allison Greenfield.

Violating it could land 30 days in jail.

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:39 pm MAJOR BREAKING: Judge Engoron has just just ordered a gag order against Donald Trump for posting a false personal attack on the judge's clerk, attorney Allison Greenfield.

Violating it could land 30 days in jail.

I believe our R friends tend to support the notion that “freedom isn’t free.”

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:39 pm MAJOR BREAKING: Judge Engoron has just just ordered a gag order against Donald Trump for posting a false personal attack on the judge's clerk, attorney Allison Greenfield.

Violating it could land 30 days in jail.

I believe our R friends tend to support the notion that “freedom isn’t free.”

^^^

Yeah, I'm sure they'll think this is just fine.

not surprising that THAT Jesus looks awful caucasian/european

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:50 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:39 pm MAJOR BREAKING: Judge Engoron has just just ordered a gag order against Donald Trump for posting a false personal attack on the judge's clerk, attorney Allison Greenfield.

Violating it could land 30 days in jail.

I believe our R friends tend to support the notion that “freedom isn’t free.”

^^^

Yeah, I'm sure they'll think this is just fine.

I confess that I underestimated the importance of this fraud trial. Which I feel sort of silly having done, because I’ve long posted that (1) things that get at his ego (sex and money) are more powerful (vis a vis him) than trivialities like national security and democracy, and (2) state court proceedings are fundamentally more dangerous to him than federal proceedings.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:56 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:50 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:49 pm

I believe our R friends tend to support the notion that “freedom isn’t free.”

^^^

Yeah, I'm sure they'll think this is just fine.

I confess that I underestimated the importance of this fraud trial. Which I feel sort of silly having done, because I’ve long posted that (1) things that get at his ego (sex and money) are more powerful (vis a vis him) than trivialities like national security and democracy, and (2) state court proceedings are fundamentally more dangerous to him than federal proceedings.

Same. To me, this was an afterthought, a sideshow.
Not that I ever gave it much thought.

In the videos of Trump after yesterday afternoon's proceedings, Trump and his lawyers were celebrating a "win".

Trump lied yesterday when he said that 80% of the AG’s case was thrown out because of the “statute of limitations.”

Judge Engoron today:
“Every use of a false financial statements in business starts the statute of limitations running again. I understand that the defendants strongly disagree with this and will appeal on those grounds."

Also, the "gag order" is very narrow, only covering attacking the judge and his staff.

Of course, Trump already doxed the judge's assistant.

Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:25 pm In the videos of Trump after yesterday afternoon's proceedings, Trump and his lawyers were celebrating a "win".

Trump lied yesterday when he said that 80% of the AG’s case was thrown out because of the “statute of limitations.”

Judge Engoron today:
“Every use of a false financial statements in business starts the statute of limitations running again. I understand that the defendants strongly disagree with this and will appeal on those grounds."

Also, the "gag order" is very narrow, only covering attacking the judge and his staff.

Of course, Trump already doxed the judge's assistant.

"Statute of limitations" joins the pantheon of things like "the Presidential Records Act" - things Trump either does not actually understand (but they sound official), or things he understands perfectly well but counts on his rubes not understanding.

True, there's always an alibi, whether it makes any sense, or not.

You might have seen them and I haven't bothered to post them, but there are videos of Trump in his deposition that were shown in court yesterday, where at one point he throws CFO Allen, GAAP?, Weisselberg under the bus, and later his Son Eric, responding to questions about his financial statements.

They're classic.

Just remembering for no reason in particular that it’s super awesome that Trump kept things like plans for Iran attacks and waved them around for attention. I’m sure that was a one-off.

And extra super awesome that he’s been treated with the velvetiest of kid gloves when any one of us would have been in a cell within a cell inside of 24 hours.

It's just locker room talk.

japhy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:05 am It's just locker room talk.

^^^

Who doesn't get that "boys will be boys" ?

This seems problematic....

Former Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg's testimony came to a screeching and unexpected halt Thursday afternoon just hours after a Forbes writer accused him of perjuring himself during an earlier day on the witness stand, The Messenger reports. Weisselberg testified Tuesday that he "never focused" on calculating the square footage of former President Donald Trump's three-floor penthouse in an effort to distance himself from Trump's false computation, which sized the property nearly three times greater than its actual square footage.

On Thursday, however, Forbes' senior editor Dan Alexander reported that emails and reporter notes not currently in the New York attorney general's possession contradict Weisselberg's testimony. "Weisselberg absolutely thought about Trump’s apartment—and played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years that it was worth more than it really was," Alexander wrote, adding that considering their discussions continued for years and the ex-CFO was very hands-on, "it defies all logic to think he truly believes what he is now saying in court."

Hours after the story's publication, New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron convened privately with attorneys for both parties in a huddle but details of the discussion remain unknown. Weisselberg was excused for the day shortly after the meeting. A source close to the New York attorney general, who brought the suit against the Trumps, Weisselberg and another company executive, confirmed that her office is looking into Forbes' report. "Weisselberg testimony seems highly problematic-and the AG elicited evidence of his substantial monetary reasons he may have to tailor his story- he is still owed hundreds of thousands of dollars as part of his agreement with the Trump co," former Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Weissman wrote of the revelation on X, formerly Twitter.

"Yes, I'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these blasted kids and their dog!"

japhy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:25 am This seems problematic....

Former Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg's testimony came to a screeching and unexpected halt Thursday afternoon just hours after a Forbes writer accused him of perjuring himself during an earlier day on the witness stand, The Messenger reports. Weisselberg testified Tuesday that he "never focused" on calculating the square footage of former President Donald Trump's three-floor penthouse in an effort to distance himself from Trump's false computation, which sized the property nearly three times greater than its actual square footage.

On Thursday, however, Forbes' senior editor Dan Alexander reported that emails and reporter notes not currently in the New York attorney general's possession contradict Weisselberg's testimony. "Weisselberg absolutely thought about Trump’s apartment—and played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years that it was worth more than it really was," Alexander wrote, adding that considering their discussions continued for years and the ex-CFO was very hands-on, "it defies all logic to think he truly believes what he is now saying in court."

Hours after the story's publication, New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron convened privately with attorneys for both parties in a huddle but details of the discussion remain unknown. Weisselberg was excused for the day shortly after the meeting. A source close to the New York attorney general, who brought the suit against the Trumps, Weisselberg and another company executive, confirmed that her office is looking into Forbes' report. "Weisselberg testimony seems highly problematic-and the AG elicited evidence of his substantial monetary reasons he may have to tailor his story- he is still owed hundreds of thousands of dollars as part of his agreement with the Trump co," former Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Weissman wrote of the revelation on X, formerly Twitter.

"Yes, I'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these blasted kids and their dog!"

If I'd have cut a deal for the purpose of ensuring I didn't die in prison, I probably would not put money in front of open doors and sunshine.

..."Weisselberg's testimony seems highly problematic-and the AG elicited evidence of his substantial monetary reasons he may have to tailor his story- he is still owed hundreds of thousands of dollars as part of his agreement with the Trump co," former Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Weissman wrote of the revelation on X, formerly Twitter.

Begs the question: Hey Alan, how much is another stent in Rikers Island worth?

BREAKING: Judge Chutkan granted a partial gag order on Trump today prohibiting threats and intimidation of the prosecutor, the court, court personnel and potential witnesses. Story about today’s hearing …

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:37 am BREAKING: Judge Chutkan granted a partial gag order on Trump today prohibiting threats and intimidation of the prosecutor, the court, court personnel and potential witnesses. Story about today’s hearing …

Trump did actually say "Hannibal Lecter loves me."

the kraken has plead guilty in Georgia