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Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:51 am
by pdub
If your point is that Texas will win the same amount or close to the same amount they are now in the SEC, we aren't arguing against that.
The argument is, since the SEC is more difficult, if Texas were to have a decade of loosing, that could end up biting them in the ass, despite the allure of the SEC. That is the risk.
The risk was presented.
And now you're scrambling around saying we're emotional because Texas left.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:53 am
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 am
The arguments directly after your question were:
"Fighting for 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 12 every year just looks and feels different than fighting Mizzou and Mississippi State for 7th place.
If Texas shows up and averages 5 win seasons in the SEC, they'll take a hit."
If you agree that football success is a large factor in following ( i.e. Kansas's SUDDEN jump in excitement and attendance of which you, yourself, posted, in this thread ) then you could see the reason if Texas was sub .500 in the SEC, not making bowl games year in/year out, it could backfire on their brand and their fanbase.
Success is a LARGE factor in the following of KU football.
Success doesn't appear to be as large of a factor in the following of Texas football. As evidenced by their recent record and still being top revenue earner and top 10 in attendance.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:54 am
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:51 am
saying we're emotional because Texas left.
You don't think people are emotional about Texas leaving the big12?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:57 am
by Deleted User 89
move them goal posts, numbnutz...since you fail at backing up your own arguments
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:59 am
by pdub
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:57 am
move them goal posts, numbnutz...since you fail at backing up your own arguments
This.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:00 pm
by pdub
It's something that non KU alums do.
Classic.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:02 pm
by pdub
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:53 am
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 am
The arguments directly after your question were:
"Fighting for 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 12 every year just looks and feels different than fighting Mizzou and Mississippi State for 7th place.
If Texas shows up and averages 5 win seasons in the SEC, they'll take a hit."
If you agree that football success is a large factor in following ( i.e. Kansas's SUDDEN jump in excitement and attendance of which you, yourself, posted, in this thread ) then you could see the reason if Texas was sub .500 in the SEC, not making bowl games year in/year out, it could backfire on their brand and their fanbase.
Success is a LARGE factor in the following of KU football.
Success doesn't appear to be as large of a factor in the following of Texas football. As evidenced by their recent record and still being top revenue earner and top 10 in attendance.
Texas finished 19th in the country last year.
25th the year before.
That is success.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:03 pm
by Deleted User 863
Something KU alums apparently don't do is attend football games unless their team is winning. Amirite?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:04 pm
by pdub
You're just upset that you're not a KU alum.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:07 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:02 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:53 am
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 am
The arguments directly after your question were:
"Fighting for 2nd or 3rd place in the Big 12 every year just looks and feels different than fighting Mizzou and Mississippi State for 7th place.
If Texas shows up and averages 5 win seasons in the SEC, they'll take a hit."
If you agree that football success is a large factor in following ( i.e. Kansas's SUDDEN jump in excitement and attendance of which you, yourself, posted, in this thread ) then you could see the reason if Texas was sub .500 in the SEC, not making bowl games year in/year out, it could backfire on their brand and their fanbase.
Success is a LARGE factor in the following of KU football.
Success doesn't appear to be as large of a factor in the following of Texas football. As evidenced by their recent record and still being top revenue earner and top 10 in attendance.
Texas finished 19th in the country last year.
25th the year before.
That is success.
So they'll be fine in the SEC then, right?
How was their attendance in 2014 thru 2016 when they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I will give you a hint: it was still good.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:08 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:04 pm
You're just upset that you're not a KU alum.
#fact
Definitely should have gone to KU. If not for the experience, at least for the messageboard clout.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:11 pm
by pdub
It's tough to listen to a guy who didn't go to KU try to talk about the Big 12 and the SEC.
All I hear is how upset he is that he couldn't cut it and now just lashes out at KU alum, whatever opinion they may have.
Really diminishes his opinion on everything really.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:13 pm
by pdub
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:07 pm
How was their attendance in 2014 thru 2016 when they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I will give you a hint: it was still good.
How many KU football games did you attend while you were going to college?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 89
and then trashes on KU fans with a back-handed attempted attendance smack
illy wrote:can’t make this shit up
a bit of facts about average attendance and national ranking:
https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03 ... analysis/2
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:16 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:13 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:07 pm
How was their attendance in 2014 thru 2016 when they had 3 losing seasons in a row? I will give you a hint: it was still good.
How many KU football games did you attend while you were going to college?
2 football iirc.
Dozens of basketball.
Compared to a grand total of zero football and 1 basketball game at the actual college i attended.
I am as dedicated of a TShirt fan as they come. Even have a Williams Educational Fund sticker on my car.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:17 pm
by Deleted User 89
ooohhh...a sticker!!!
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:18 pm
by Deleted User 89
you know it’s bad when two of the most reasonable posters on this site (pdub and cr) call out your bullshit
any self aware person would take the hint
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:19 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:17 pm
ooohhh...a sticker!!!
You're a BYU guy. That says a lot.
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:20 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:18 pm
you know it’s bad when two of the most reasonable posters on this site (pdub and cr) call out your bullshit
any self aware person would take the hint
If they don't ban me are you going to quit again?
Re: Conference Realignment..?
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 pm
by pdub
The correct thing to say is, "oh, yea, it could be a risk, but I don't think much of one, because I think Texas will maintain at least a reasonable level of competitive football -- i don't think they'll hover around .400 ball."
This still acknowledges the risk that you asked about but presents your stance on what you expect the successes of Texas will be.
