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Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:18 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Shirley wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:03 am Because I don't feel the need to "both sides" every issue to death in order to avoid possibly offending anyone who might not like me because they disagree.
I still like you when we disagree. ;)
I both sides because it is truly a psychological issue that I suffer from. It's literally debilitating for me at times.
Here is something with both sides - to disagree about.....
I find it interesting when people say it's not the President who controls oil and gas prices when the President they support is getting blamed - and then they credit the President for oil and gas prices when they feel the President is worthy of credit.
I'm not necessarily saying that's you (maybe I kind of am? ;) ) - but there are people who do it.

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Maybe this after January 20 2025?
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Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:44 am
by KUTradition
those are the ill-informed or willfully ignorant, gutter

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:21 am
by Shirley
Thanks Kamala and Joe!

Consumer confidence logs strongest monthly rise since March 2021 in October

U.S. consumer confidence jumped to 108.7 in October from 99.2 (revised from 98.7) in September, The Conference Board said on Tuesday, easily surpassing the 99.5 consensus...

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:18 pm
by twocoach
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:18 am
Shirley wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:03 am Because I don't feel the need to "both sides" every issue to death in order to avoid possibly offending anyone who might not like me because they disagree.
I still like you when we disagree. ;)
I both sides because it is truly a psychological issue that I suffer from. It's literally debilitating for me at times.
Here is something with both sides - to disagree about.....
I find it interesting when people say it's not the President who controls oil and gas prices when the President they support is getting blamed - and then they credit the President for oil and gas prices when they feel the President is worthy of credit.
I'm not necessarily saying that's you (maybe I kind of am? ;) ) - but there are people who do it.

I think some of that is done to counter the message from the JKs and Randy here. WE know that there really isn't a ton of things that the President does to directly control gas prices other than but IF Randy and JK are going to still sit here and say "sorry, whatever happens when Biden is in the Big Boy chair is a reflection of him, then we sometimes choose to play their game.

We know it is BS just like it is BS that "The Border" is somehow the most important thing to some random white guy in rural Michigan. The GOP platform these days is pro-2A rights, anti-abortion and then whatever there is to complain about.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:16 pm
by Shirley
A Republican with the 3rd highest Net Favorability Rating among male voters?

Cool:


Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:44 am
by Shirley
Thanks, Kamala and Joe!

The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy

The high quality of recent economic growth should put a wind at the back of the White House’s next occupant.

Whoever wins the White House next week will take office with no shortage of challenges, but at least one huge asset: an economy that is putting its peers to shame.

With another solid performance in the third quarter, the U.S. has grown 2.7% over the past year. It is outrunning every other major developed economy, not to mention its own historical growth rate.

More impressive than the rate of growth is its quality. This growth didn’t come solely from using up finite supplies of labor and other resources, which could fuel inflation. Instead, it came from making people and businesses more productive.


This combination, if sustained, will be a wind at the back of the next president. Three of the past four newcomers to the White House took office in or around a recession (the exception was Donald Trump, in 2017), which consumed much of their first-term agenda. The next president should be free of that burden.
 
Meanwhile, higher productivity growth should make the economy a bit less prone to inflation, more capable of sustaining budget deficits, and more likely to deliver strong wages. All would be a boon to President Trump or President Kamala Harris.

To describe this economy as remarkable would strike most Americans as confusing, if not insulting. In the latest WSJ poll, 62% of respondents rated the economy as “not so good” or “poor,” which explains the lack of any political dividend for President Biden. There are many reasons for the disconnect, most important the high inflation of 2021-23, whose effects still linger.

When you’re unhappy at home, you can gain some perspective by checking in on your neighbors. The whole world has been through the wringer since 2020; any country’s performance alone is less revealing than how it compares with its peers. 

Most leaders from around the world would trade their economies for the U.S.’s in a heartbeat. Through the second quarter, the U.S. grew 3%; none of the world’s next six largest advanced economies grew more than 1%. Even China is struggling.

Sometimes strong growth is a prelude to a recession because it comes from straining the economy’s capacity, generating inflation and forcing the Federal Reserve to raise rates.

Yet inflation has fallen in the past year, to 2.7% in the third quarter, using the Fed’s preferred underlying measure. That’s still above the Fed’s 2% target, but the progress was sufficient for the Fed to cut rates in September and pencil in more cuts—all without growth flagging.

“That’s pretty impressive. That’s a bit of a Goldilocks outcome,” Robin Vince, chief executive of BNY, said in a recent interview. “A year, two years ago, very few commentators actually thought that was going to be possible.”

Some of that growth was due to the labor force swelling with inflows of unauthorized migrants. Payroll employment was up 2.4 million in the year through the third quarter, or 1.6%. That, however, overstates the contribution of labor because on average each employee worked slightly less hours.

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Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:09 am
by japhy
There its only one rational logical thing to do with a strong economy....take it apart and run some crude ill-advised monumental experiments on it and see what makes it tick.......and obviously see what makes it not tick no more.

But let's talk about the price of gas.

Pro Tip: If you think about the price of gas when you fill your tank, you don't have the resources to make it in the new shiny austerity economy.

Austerity, whether you like it or not.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:19 am
by Overlander
japhy wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:09 am There its only one rational logical thing to do with a strong economy....take it apart and run some crude ill-advised monumental experiments on it and see what makes it tick.......and obviously see what makes it not tick no more.

But let's talk about the price of gas.

Pro Tip: If you think about the price of gas when you fill your tank, you don't have the resources to make it in the new shiny austerity economy.

Austerity, whether you like it or not.
Yeah, it always cracked me up.
Filling your tank goes from costing $45 to $60, and now you have to sell one of your children for medical experiments.

Austerity!

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:41 am
by Shirley
japhy wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:09 am There its only one rational logical thing to do with a strong economy....take it apart and run some crude ill-advised monumental experiments on it and see what makes it tick.......and obviously see what makes it not tick no more.

But let's talk about the price of gas.

Pro Tip: If you think about the price of gas when you fill your tank, you don't have the resources to make it in the new shiny austerity economy.

Austerity, whether you like it or not.
You'd think I would have noticed, but when did the US become Argentina?

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm
by JKLivin
Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.

Hmmmm. Complete coincidence, I’m sure. Unburdened by what has been.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:47 pm
by zsn
The “complete coincidence” is that you happen to pull your head out of wherever it’s been when reality is also in full view. This is the reason why you are surprised to learn that the US economy has been the strongest in the world for at least the past two years.

For the rest of us it’s not exactly a secret. Thank you, Uncle Joe and Kamala!!

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:48 pm
by jfish26
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.

Hmmmm. Complete coincidence, I’m sure. Unburdened by what has been.
This post, and not reality disagreeing with MAGA doomcasting, is revisionist history.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:55 pm
by jhawks99
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.

Hmmmm. Complete coincidence, I’m sure. Unburdened by what has been.
You sound desperate

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:15 pm
by Overlander
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.
I know, right?
At least you didn't have to worry about that in a Trump presidency!

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:15 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.

Hmmmm. Complete coincidence, I’m sure. Unburdened by what has been.
"always"?
So...... like...... When Trump was President?

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:15 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
DAMN Jeeper! You beat me to it by a few seconds.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:39 pm
by JKLivin
jhawks99 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:55 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.

Hmmmm. Complete coincidence, I’m sure. Unburdened by what has been.
You sound desperate
If, by “desperate,” you mean “amused,” then, yes.

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:40 pm
by JKLivin
Overlander wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:15 pm
JKLivin wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:32 pm Funny how things always make an “amazing turnaround” the week before an election after having been complete shit for 3 1/2 years.
I know, right?
At least you didn't have to worry about that in a Trump presidency!
True. It was already looking good, so . . .

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:41 pm
by JKLivin
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:15 pm DAMN Jeeper! You beat me to it by a few seconds.
Tell me you have a man crush without actually telling me you have a man crush.

Gee whiz, Gutter, ask the guy out, already!

Re: Kamala! Fuck Yeah!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:56 pm
by Overlander
Hey, I can only imagine how difficult it must be to be in "fear, fear, fear....hate, hate hate" mode 24/7.
You really are a trooper.