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Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:40 pm
by ousdahl
Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:59 pm
by KUTradition
but, pragmatism [often] actually gets things done

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:07 pm
by Shirley
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:40 pm Have we fallen into a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is inferior or detrimental, as though having lost the will or the vision to demand that which is good?
That, or, some people say it's self-defeating to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, the possible.



As the AOC's of the world transition into the power holders and the demographics of the electorate continue changing for the better, you'll be even more able to make the changes you want. As long as you show up and republicans haven't made voting completely irrelevant before then. Not doing what's possible in the meantime only increases the threat that your vote won't matter by the time you wise up.

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:50 pm
by ousdahl
uhhh

or, it could be that the more self-defeating thing is to complacently sit back and expect this change you speak of to be accomplished thru electoral politics.

History may suggest otherwise...tho I'll have to check the memes to confirm.

also, AOC lulz

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:11 pm
by Shirley
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:50 pm uhhh

or, it could be that the more self-defeating thing is to complacently sit back and expect this change you speak of to be accomplished thru electoral politics.

History may suggest otherwise...tho I'll have to check the memes to confirm.

also, AOC lulz
Thanks for reminding me not to waste my time.

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:43 pm
by ousdahl
Oh come on…if politicians took care of workers, this thread wouldn’t even need to exist.

Re: Strikes

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:41 pm
by ousdahl
Come on down, SAG-AFTRA.

First time actors and writers both on strike at the same time since the 60s

Re: Strikes

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:56 pm
by ousdahl
“The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses,”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/20 ... apartments

Re: Strikes

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:02 pm
by ousdahl
Also, a big part of the negotiations is the issue of AI...

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/ ... 234788191/
The reported proposal hinged on the ability for background actors to be “scanned, get paid for one day’s pay” and for that company to “own that scan of their image, their likeness, and to be able to use it for the rest of eternity in any project they want with no consent and no compensation."
...
The idea that studios could pay an actor less than $200 and own that person’s image forever to use in any project at any time is terrifying, several actors tell Rolling Stone, particularly when it comes to not knowing what your image is being used for.

“There’s been a lot of conversation about consent on set — AI is just another way to get around consent from actors, particularly actors assigned female at birth,” one New York-based background actor says. “If for some reason they use my face and they put me in a situation that I did not consent to, that is very troubling.”

The practice could potentially restrict how much someone can work, McCann points out. If an actor does background work for a specific company, there’s a good chance for that company to draw from its AI database and use that previously filmed footage or scanned data for another show instead of hiring that actor again — even if it’s years later. “My career has ended before it’s even started,” he says. “It is taking any sort of agency and power we have as performers and saying, ‘Well, it’s not worth anything.’”

Limiting roles and opportunities for background actors would also do untold damage to other production departments, such as costume, hair and makeup, and assistant positions, as big projects often have whole teams solely dedicated to overseeing and handling background roles.
(oh, and PS, the execs are making like 9 figures a year)

Re: Strikes

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:05 pm
by MICHHAWK
hollywood is going to have a very difficult time garnering any sort of sympathy for their cause outside of hollywood.

there is so much content out there. I can go years without anything new.

california can fall into the ocean for all I care.

Re: Strikes

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:39 am
by ousdahl
Teamsters president says he’s asked the White House not to intervene if UPS workers go on strike

https://apnews.com/article/ups-strike-t ... d6290ac8ea

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:12 am
by ousdahl
Bil Nye the Union guy

Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill!

Image

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:21 pm
by Shirley

Re: Strikes

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:16 pm
by Shirley
UPS and the Teamsters Union reached a settlement, averting a strike.

Thanks, Joe

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:19 am
by ousdahl
Feral wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:16 pm UPS and the Teamsters Union reached a settlement, averting a strike.

Thanks, organized workers

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:21 am
by KUTradition
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:19 am
Feral wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:16 pm UPS and the Teamsters Union reached a settlement, averting a strike.

Thanks, free and democratic society

Re: Strikes

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:52 am
by Sparko
No thanks Fox News

Re: Strikes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:44 am
by ousdahl
Come on down, UAW

Re: Strikes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:01 pm
by KUTradition
funny to compare public and media reactions to auto-workers vs. actors/writers striking

Re: Strikes

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:06 pm
by MICHHAWK
the uaw demands are pretty absurd. i hope the companies break them.