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Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:34 am
by CrimsonNBlue
It's kind of weird that we're off this week. Finals are next week.
Probably should have had the Texas Southern game that was right after the Bahamas tonight.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:34 pm
by Mjl
Is this the thread for general stuff about this season? Assuming so...
Baseline cuts. Never seen a Self team utilize them anywhere remotely near as much as this year. Why is that?
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:37 pm
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:34 pm
Is this the thread for general stuff about this season? Assuming so...
Baseline cuts. Never seen a Self team utilize them anywhere remotely near as much as this year. Why is that?
Lots of speed and KJ is a really good passer at the 5?
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:44 pm
by ousdahl
yea, something like that.
I was gonna say maybe cuz we really aren't playing much with a traditional post - both in the sense of maybe that affects spacing, and/or that if we can't toss it into the post then we gotta get looks some other way, so why not back door.
but, I remember Landen Lucas being good at that back door dish too, and was also an old school post, so who knows
not that I know anything about basketball either way
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:32 am
by KUTradition
having 5 guys on the floor that can grab the rebound and run is a unique situation…just hope KJ doesn’t try to do too much
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:04 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:34 pm
Is this the thread for general stuff about this season? Assuming so...
Baseline cuts. Never seen a Self team utilize them anywhere remotely near as much as this year. Why is that?
For yesterday it was because Gates likes to play full pressure with traps in the full court and then overplays out on the perimeter.
I know it’s the identity he’s trying to install, but that is a terrible strategy against us, especially when you are several degrees worse and many pounds fatter than this KU team. Blowout city. It was shooting practice and a layup line that could have been closer with a different mizzou approach.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:18 am
by KUTradition
many pounds fatter
lol…so true
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:33 am
by randylahey
Surprised nobody mentioned cam Martin finally getting on the floor. Do we like what we've seen of him? Is he our back up center for this season?
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:48 am
by ousdahl
Cam only played a couple minutes so who knows.
I do like his ink tho.
But yea, while KJ is a killer matchup against teams like miz, at some point we’re gonna need our bigs to actually be big
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Cam was bad and was yanked pretty immediately. Self got a little too cute, there.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:52 am
by Deleted User 863
randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:33 am
Surprised nobody mentioned cam Martin finally getting on the floor. Do we like what we've seen of him? Is he our back up center for this season?
I am surprised he came in before some of the other bigs.
He basically showed nothing.
I still think/hope our 5 consists mainly of Udeh and KJ.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:14 am
by ousdahl
Cam checking in was almost mop up time anyway
But yea he looked pretty loost
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:42 am
by Mjl
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:04 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:34 pm
Is this the thread for general stuff about this season? Assuming so...
Baseline cuts. Never seen a Self team utilize them anywhere remotely near as much as this year. Why is that?
For yesterday it was because Gates likes to play full pressure with traps in the full court and then overplays out on the perimeter.
I know it’s the identity he’s trying to install, but that is a terrible strategy against us, especially when you are several degrees worse and many pounds fatter than this KU team. Blowout city. It was shooting practice and a layup line that could have been closer with a different mizzou approach.
Yeah, there was more of it yesterday, but they've been doing it more than usual the whole season. Might just be because there's more space since nobody is trying to post up. Or maybe teams are just pressuring more
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:57 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:42 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:04 am
Mjl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:34 pm
Is this the thread for general stuff about this season? Assuming so...
Baseline cuts. Never seen a Self team utilize them anywhere remotely near as much as this year. Why is that?
For yesterday it was because Gates likes to play full pressure with traps in the full court and then overplays out on the perimeter.
I know it’s the identity he’s trying to install, but that is a terrible strategy against us, especially when you are several degrees worse and many pounds fatter than this KU team. Blowout city. It was shooting practice and a layup line that could have been closer with a different mizzou approach.
Yeah, there was more of it yesterday, but they've been doing it more than usual the whole season. Might just be because there's more space since nobody is trying to post up. Or maybe teams are just pressuring more
Right. When we play our 5-out offense, need a ton of movement off the ball. Gets the defense to turn their backs, too.
This is closer to the type of offense I've been wanting to run, but this team might just be a player short of being a great offense.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:05 am
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:57 am
This is closer to the type of offense I've been wanting to run
Agree.
I think it is very encouraging to see us evolving and making adjustments. Hopefully we can continue to tweak some things to cover up some of our shooting deficiencies.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:12 am
by randylahey
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:14 am
Cam checking in was almost mop up time anyway
But yea he looked pretty loost
Has to be expected. That was technically his first game ever
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:38 am
by Sparko
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 am
Cam was bad and was yanked pretty immediately. Self got a little too cute, there.
Self did that as a reward for him--remember he transferred from Missouri Southern after graduation. I assume he really wanted a chance to play in Columbia. One of the things we love about Self.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:40 am
by Deleted User 863
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 am
Cam was bad and was yanked pretty immediately. Self got a little too cute, there.
Self did that as a reward for him
Love that about Self.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:44 am
by Sparko
He saw the floor. Wasn't ready. But saw the floor in Columbia. Self giveth and yanketh away.
Re: 2022-2023 Lineup
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:50 am
by CrimsonNBlue
Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:38 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:49 am
Cam was bad and was yanked pretty immediately. Self got a little too cute, there.
Self did that as a reward for him--remember he transferred from Missouri Southern after graduation. I assume he really wanted a chance to play in Columbia. One of the things we love about Self.
Oklahoma to Joplin was his path, so not exactly mizzou central, but still a pretty fair point.
Heck, he was probably looking at being rewarded no matter who we played where he was first available. He's been waiting a long time to see the floor.