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ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:13 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 3:11 pm Yep
People are saying Hampton's decision puts pressure on the NCAA to change. I think it does the opposite. They dont need Hampton and they are less pressured to be forced to pay players of a lesser caliber. The tourney will always have the same size viewing audience. A few teams may have a few more woshy washy fans stop tuning in but that isnt enough to make the NCAA fork over tons of cash to athletes.

The tourney will always have the same size viewing audience, just like the Titanic is unsinkable.

Paul1 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:30 am The NCAA isn't going to "fork over tons of money to athletes". It's the schools, boosters, shoe companies, etc.
NCAA has nothing to lose other than the "integrity" of college athletics.
Most people would agree the one and done rule blows. Overall, it blows for NCAA basketball, blows for NBA basketball, blows for the athletes, blows for the fans.
That being said, it's going to blow for the NCAA if a kid can go straight to the NBA out of HS.
People are going to honestly tell me that they feel the NCAA product would have been just as marketable last season if Zion and the rest of the top 10-15 recruits went straight to the NBA? I'm not buying it.

hartjack8 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:38 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:13 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 3:11 pm Yep
People are saying Hampton's decision puts pressure on the NCAA to change. I think it does the opposite. They dont need Hampton and they are less pressured to be forced to pay players of a lesser caliber. The tourney will always have the same size viewing audience. A few teams may have a few more woshy washy fans stop tuning in but that isnt enough to make the NCAA fork over tons of cash to athletes.

The tourney will always have the same size viewing audience, just like the Titanic is unsinkable.

It is not like the NCAA is giving up any money, not a dime out of their pocket. The NCAA could allow the players to get paid and it would have zero impact on the NCAA. Let's look at the financials.

The NCAA makes around a billion dollars a year which is 99.9% driven by the NCAA march madness basketball tourney.

The shoe companies make a ton. Just a quick glance Nike did like 4 billion in 2017 basketball shoes.
You do know that Nike has paid Lebron more than the NBA right??

Let's just pick someone say like Zion. Is there anyway possible that Nike could not pay Zion???
Fuck NO. That kid is getting paid.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:43 am Quality of play is not going to diminish nearly as much as you think.
In fact, it may improve in some areas, as teams have more upperclassmen and play together as a unit more often.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:44 am The integrity of college athletics may have gone to shit a long time ago.
But, kinda like the environment is already fucked, do we just say, well fuck it, burn it up.
Or maybe try and reverse what's happened, even if it'll take a lot of work/even if it's too late.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:34 am Don't care about Zion.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:26 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:34 am Don't care about Zion.

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Paul1 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:44 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:26 am

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:34 am Don't care about Zion.

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Hard for me to believe you guys don't care about Zion when you are discussing and commenting about him.
You might not like him, you might think he's over-rated/over-hyped, but it seems you still care about him.
Like it or not, Zion was the #1 product the NCAA and the college basketball media had in college basketball last season. If he went straight to the NBA instead of Duke - It would have had a negative impact on a lot of entities.
Of course college basketball is still a very strong product and would have survived just fine without Zion but it's almost impossible to say the college basketball world didn't benefit from him. A lot.

Paul1 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:30 amMost people would agree the one and done rule blows. Overall, it blows for NCAA basketball, blows for NBA basketball, blows for the athletes, blows for the fans.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:36 am

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 3:54 pm College sports are tied to rabid, alumni fan bases not 'one and done' players.

I'm concerned that rabid alumni fan bases got to be rabid in the first place cuz their teams featured some of the most talented and competitive young players around.

I'm not sure college ball can really afford to diminish the quality of game and competition.

I mean how many DII schools and community colleges have rabid hoops fan bases?

In a sense, I like college hoops the way it is, and I'm for preserving a certain status quo - with the status quo being college hoops as the second best league in the land. Part of that status quo, and part of being the second best league in the land, is - eeeek! - players getting compensated. To pretend otherwise is a failure to recognize the reality of college hoops.

so I guess the part of the status quo I might want to change is the whole head-in-the-sand approach to the idea of college hoops amateurism. The practice of compensation is, and has been, fairly ubiquitous in college hoops. I struggle to see how accepting it and legitimizing that does anything to diminish the quality of game play.

You know, that same quality of game play that made all those alumni fan bases rabid in the first place.