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Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:14 am
by jfish26
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
Drip...drip...drip...
JUST IN: Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis enters plea deal in Georgia election interference case
For five (5) minutes every day, I allow myself to indulge in what it would (will?) look like once all of the rats have scurried off the ship, and Captain Ahab here is dragged into the federal sneezer unable to say anything except sad-clown catchphrases ("rigged!"; "stollen!"; "my lawyers said!"; "first amendment rights!; and so on).
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:37 am
by KUTradition
The deal allows her to avoid jail time in exchange for providing evidence that could potentially implicate other defendants and agreeing to testify in any future trials.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:40 am
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:14 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
Drip...drip...drip...
JUST IN: Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis enters plea deal in Georgia election interference case
For five (5) minutes every day, I allow myself to indulge in what it would (will?) look like once all of the rats have scurried off the ship, and Captain Ahab here is dragged into the federal sneezer unable to say anything except sad-clown catchphrases ("rigged!"; "stollen!"; "my lawyers said!"; "first amendment rights!; and so on).
Like (nearly?) everything else in life, I resist the urge to be so hopeful, even briefly, lest it only serve to increase the disappointment if the fascists win.
Progress:
Former Trump Attorney Jenna Ellis Get Emotional Reading Statement After Accepting Plea Deal
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:43 am
by jfish26
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:40 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:14 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
Drip...drip...drip...
JUST IN: Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis enters plea deal in Georgia election interference case
For five (5) minutes every day, I allow myself to indulge in what it would (will?) look like once all of the rats have scurried off the ship, and Captain Ahab here is dragged into the federal sneezer unable to say anything except sad-clown catchphrases ("rigged!"; "stollen!"; "my lawyers said!"; "first amendment rights!; and so on).
Like (nearly?) everything else in life, I resist the urge to be so hopeful, even briefly, lest it only serve to increase the disappointment if the fascists win.
Progress:
Former Trump Attorney Jenna Ellis Get Emotional Reading Statement After Accepting Plea Deal
What is life without hope?
Jokes aside, I think we're closer to the end than the beginning here. And this is all BEFORE all shoes have dropped.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:58 am
by Shirley
I definitely agree.
But then I remember the law republicans in the Georgia legislature recently passed giving them the ability to act out their Law and order for you but not for me wet dreams on Fani Willis, and my countenance drops.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:10 am
by jfish26
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:58 am
I definitely agree.
But then I remember the law republicans in the Georgia legislature recently passed giving them the ability to act out their
Law and order for you but not for me wet dreams on Fani Willis, and my countenance drops.
I just feel like we've reached critical mass here, in a lot of ways.
One of those ways is that the sheer volume and complexity of the charges (and, again, there's still more to come) is going to exhaust his ability to, literally, buy time. That may already have happened.
Another of those ways is that the sheer variety of the prosecutions (substantively AND procedurally) means he doesn't have a silver bullet; there is redundancy in the prosecutions (and, again, there's still more to come).
Yet another of those ways is that Trump is perhaps the worst-suited person we've ever seen, in terms of temperament to see all of this through to the other side. He's ABSOLUTELY going to make things worse for himself across the cases (and, again, there's still more to come).
I think all of this has reached escape velocity. I am growing more certain by the day that this ends with Trump in Hungary or Qatar or somesuch.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:32 am
by Shirley
jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:10 am
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:58 am
I definitely agree.
But then I remember the law republicans in the Georgia legislature recently passed giving them the ability to act out their
Law and order for you but not for me wet dreams on Fani Willis, and my countenance drops.
I just feel like we've reached critical mass here, in a lot of ways.
One of those ways is that the sheer volume and complexity of the charges (and, again, there's still more to come) is going to exhaust his ability to, literally, buy time. That may already have happened.
Another of those ways is that the sheer variety of the prosecutions (substantively AND procedurally) means he doesn't have a silver bullet; there is redundancy in the prosecutions (and, again, there's still more to come).
Yet another of those ways is that Trump is perhaps the worst-suited person we've ever seen, in terms of temperament to see all of this through to the other side. He's ABSOLUTELY going to make things worse for himself across the cases (and, again, there's still more to come).
I think all of this has reached escape velocity. I am growing more certain by the day that this ends with Trump in Hungary or Qatar or somesuch.
I don't disagree with anything you say, but can't totally discount the possibility that the Georgia republicans put an end to Fani's case and:
Trump is elected and pardons himself of any and all federal convictions/charges.
One of Trump's stooges is elected, partially as a result of a blanket-pardon promise.
The next republican speaker won't certify Biden's victory in the Nov '24 election and...
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:59 am
by jhawks99
Ya hate to see it.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:00 am
by jhawks99
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 am
Drip...drip...drip...
JUST IN: Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis enters plea deal in Georgia election interference case
https://sonichits.com/video/Cheech_%26_ ... er?track=1
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:35 am
by Sparko
You would have to be a truly awful person to swing Republican MAGA after all of this stuff.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:05 pm
by Shirley
Maybe it's just me, but
Gag Orders seem unfair.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:11 pm
by jhawks99
ABC reporting that Mark Medows has been granted immunity for testimony.
Ruh row
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:17 pm
by KUTradition
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:05 pm
Maybe it's just me, but
Gag Orders seem unfair.
lmao
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:21 pm
by twocoach
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:11 pm
ABC reporting that Mark Medows has been granted immunity for testimony.
Ruh row
https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-m ... =104231281
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:31 pm
by jfish26
The noose (the metaphorical legal one, not the literal one Trump wanted Pence in) tightens.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:35 pm
by Shirley
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Mark Meadows has testified before a grand jury in exchange for immunity - according to sources familiar with the former chief of staff’s conversations with the Special Counsel.
Meadows told prosecutors he he agreed the 2020 election was the most secure in American history and that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were turning out to be baseless.
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:36 pm
by jhawks99
Shirley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:35 pm
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Mark Meadows has testified before a grand jury in exchange for immunity - according to sources familiar with the former chief of staff’s conversations with the Special Counsel.
Meadows told prosecutors he he agreed the 2020 election was the most secure in American history and that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were turning out to be baseless.
She's singing, "Donnie's goin to Jay-el"
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:41 pm
by Shirley
Meadows wrote a book, that he now admits was full of lies.
Grift much, Mark?
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:55 pm
by KUTradition
Just ahead of his campaign rally in New Hampshire, former president Donald Trump falsely claimed that he was never indicted in response to a question about his former attorney Sidney Powell.
Asked by a reporter if he was concerned that his recent assertion that Powell was never his lawyer (despite him previously saying she was) means that his communication with her would not be protected under attorney-client privilege, Trump, who has been indicted four times, falsely stated that he was actually "never indicted."
"We did nothing wrong,” Trump asserted. “This is all Biden. Indictments, impeachments — this is all about Biden. ... I was never indicted. You practically never heard the word. It wasn't a word that registered.”
At the rally itself, HuffPost reports, the former president put forth a host of strange statements, one of which involved him encouraging supporters to watch other voters but advising them not to “worry about voting” themselves. In another instance, Trump proclaimed that "U.S." and "us" are spelled the same and noted that he "just picked that up" before lamenting how the media doesn't acknowledge his "genius" remarks. "Has anyone ever thought of that before?” he asked the audience. “Couple of days, I’m reading, and it said ‘us.’ and I said, you know, when you think about it, us equals U.S. Now if we say something genius, they will never say it.”…
gene-yus
no wonder psych loves him so much
Re: Charges
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:14 pm
by Shirley
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:55 pm
Just ahead of his campaign rally in New Hampshire, former president Donald Trump falsely claimed that he was never indicted in response to a question about his former attorney Sidney Powell.
Asked by a reporter if he was concerned that his recent assertion that Powell was never his lawyer (despite him previously saying she was) means that his communication with her would not be protected under attorney-client privilege, Trump, who has been indicted four times, falsely stated that he was actually "never indicted."
"We did nothing wrong,” Trump asserted. “This is all Biden. Indictments, impeachments — this is all about Biden. ... I was never indicted. You practically never heard the word. It wasn't a word that registered.”
At the rally itself, HuffPost reports, the former president put forth a host of strange statements, one of which involved him encouraging supporters to watch other voters but advising them not to “worry about voting” themselves. In another instance, Trump proclaimed that "U.S." and "us" are spelled the same and noted that he "just picked that up" before lamenting how the media doesn't acknowledge his "genius" remarks. "Has anyone ever thought of that before?” he asked the audience. “Couple of days, I’m reading, and it said ‘us.’ and I said, you know, when you think about it, us equals U.S. Now if we say something genius, they will never say it.”…
gene-yus
no wonder psych loves him so much
Isn't that the same speech where Trump got confused while praising Hungarian dictator, Victor Orban?
“I was very honored — there’s a man, Viktor Orbán, anybody ever hear of him? He’s probably like, one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world,” he said. “He’s the leader of Turkey.”
Orbán is the authoritarian leader of Hungary and a frequent recipient of praise from the former president. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is the president of Turkey.
Trump went on to say that Orbán shared a border with Russia, which neither Hungary nor Turkey do.
But, Biden...