Kansas Crimson

Trump has his nose so far up Bibi's ass, what can Americans expect?

#notmypm

lulz

This should help the cause for peace and justice in the middle east:

#somuchwinning

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 am This should help the cause for peace and justice in the middle east:

#somuchwinning

If the arabs wanted that land they could have simply not attacked Israel.

Mjl wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:49 am

Feral wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:49 am This should help the cause for peace and justice in the middle east:

#somuchwinning

If the arabs wanted that land they could have simply not attacked Israel.

^^^

And, "This should help the cause for peace and justice in the middle east."

Oh, Good! Like taking health care away from > 20,000,000 million Americans and ending the protection for pre-existing conditions, Americans love separating families at the border!

I had pre-existing condition coverage long before the ACA.

Jussayin.

Cuz you actually know better.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:31 pm I had pre-existing condition coverage long before the ACA.

Jussayin.

Cuz you actually know better.

How nice for you.

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:35 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:31 pm I had pre-existing condition coverage long before the ACA.

Jussayin.

Cuz you actually know better.

How nice for you.

Yes. Me and everybody else in 36 states.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:04 pm

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:35 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:31 pm I had pre-existing condition coverage long before the ACA.

Jussayin.

Cuz you actually know better.

How nice for you.

Yes. Me and everybody else in 36 states.

How nice for you and the other people living in those particular states.

Before passage of the ACA in 2010, every individual state set their own rules on pre-existing conditions. Ins. co.s were also allowed to charge higher premiums and put annual &/or life-time caps on coverage for each pre-existing condition. And, depending on the state, insurance co.s used exclusion periods and elimination riders so they could avoid paying for people with pre existing conditions’ health coverage. So people with chronic conditions, i.e., the people who need insurance the most, could run out of benefits and be stuck paying huge medical bills even though they had medical insurance. During the health care reform debate, a congressional investigation discovered that more than 400 medical conditions or diagnoses were used to justify denials of coverage.

These regulations mainly applied to the individual health insurance market, not the group plans that many people join through their employer. In fact, many Americans did not even realize the individual market was different until they lost their jobs and their group coverage. A loss of group coverage meant they had to pay the entire premium themselves and this made it difficult for them to find affordable health insurance and many were priced out of affording healthcare because of their pre existing conditions.

imzcount wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:56 pm

defixione wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:38 pm Is Obama running for Prez again?

What are you, 11 years old?

Before passage of the ACA in 2010, every individual state set their own rules on pre-existing conditions. Ins. co.s were also allowed to charge higher premiums and put annual &/or life-time caps on coverage for each pre-existing condition.

I know you're not stupid. So I know that you know how they worked this out. Instead of charging those of us with pre-existing conditions "high-risk" premiums, they allowed/compelled insurance companies to charge EVERYONE high-risk premiums. THAT'S what "guaranteed coverage" means, and that's why premiums have skyrocketed. If insurance companies are obligated to cover the guy who found out yesterday that he has ALS, then they have to make up the cost somewhere. And that cost is at EVERYONE else's expense.

That's a big part of the reason why the ACA is thoroughly dysfunctional.

But then, you knew that.

And the republican alternative is ...?

Feral wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:48 pm And the republican alternative is ...?

Well...they could go back to pricing high-risk like they used to, but Gaia knows the shrieks and screams from the KnowNothings would be too much for anyone to endure.

where’s a pooper scooper when you need one?

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:21 pm
That's a big part of the reason why the ACA is thoroughly dysfunctional.

But then, you knew that.

I don't think that the ACA is "thoroughly dysfunctional" but you know that......

Back to the regularly scheduled demagoguery: the bigger the risk-pool the lower the incremental cost, but you know that also. We figured out rocket science but the political class bought and paid-for by the insurance lobby (and contrarian hold-outs) won't allow us to implement what is taken for granted in the rest of the civilized world.

zsn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:04 pm

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:21 pm
That's a big part of the reason why the ACA is thoroughly dysfunctional.

But then, you knew that.

I don't think that the ACA is "thoroughly dysfunctional" but you know that......

Back to the regularly scheduled demagoguery: the bigger the risk-pool the lower the incremental cost, but you know that also. We figured out rocket science but the political class bought and paid-for by the insurance lobby (and contrarian hold-outs) won't allow us to implement what is taken for granted in the rest of the civilized world.

American exceptionalism at work.