Kansas Crimson

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:36 am I'm hoping some good can come from this whole Taylor Swift thing and the Swiftie army can rise up and get Cheffers fired.

Kelce:
"It's ignorance, the ref number 51 shouldn't be able to wear a zebra jersey ever again, he shouldn't even be able to work at fucking Foot Locker."

It just blows my mind how much we leave up to chance and whim in the NFL. Cheffers’ explanation that Toney’s offsides was too egregious to deserve even a warning…is not the level of discretion the refs should have over something like this.

Cheffers is tainted in some way. Malign intent at least.

RGIII:

"An Offsides call erased a one of the more creative impromptu plays we have ever seen. A lateral by Travis Kelce on the same day the man who gave us the Music City Miracle, Frank Wycheck, passed away. Instead of that memory, we are left with more officiating inconsistencies."

But but but. Invisible line.

Buffalo players knew it was BS. They looked like kids whose dad fixed the sack race. No animus towards Buffalo at all

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:48 am No animus towards Buffalo at all

No, not for that call.
But maybe some for letting Von Miller play after it was revealed he choked out his pregnant girlfriend.

There is no advantage for a WR. So you call that. Now if he had tackled the safety while the ball is in the air, that is a no call

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:56 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:48 am No animus towards Buffalo at all

No, not for that call.
But maybe some for letting Von Miller play after it was revealed he choked out his pregnant girlfriend.

On video. And the rest situation. The NFL looks like an organized crime syndicate.

Thanks, Trad. The curse of the 1985 world series.

I had no idea that “offside-offense” even existed

Neither did anyone else. Never saw it called before and suspect it is a dead ball foul. Toney asked line judge for valid alignment too apparently.

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:27 pm Neither did anyone else. Never saw it called before and suspect it is a dead ball foul. Toney asked line judge for valid alignment too apparently.

I thought I’d seen that the refs have said that Toney did not ask. If he did ask, then I feel differently about this whole thing.

I thought the same thing about whether it’s a dead-ball foul, but then I considered illegal formation - don’t they let those plays play out before assessing the penalty?

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:15 pm I had no idea that “offside-offense” even existed

Because players are usually smart enough to get themselves lined up right. This was the first time that it has ever been called against an Andy Reid coached NFL team.

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:27 pm Neither did anyone else. Never saw it called before and suspect it is a dead ball foul. Toney asked line judge for valid alignment too apparently.

I read that is has been called 13 times this season.

I've never seen it called before.
Or at least not that I recall.

Oh, and video replay shows that Von Miller was NOT offsides on the next play. People are assuming he is based off of a screen shot from a weird angle.

He jumped across the line early in real time. Looks like Twocoach is on a mission. They could have called OPI. Or holding. Or illegal formation. Or they could let the teams play. It is when you call or don't call penalties. I for one am glad they have chosen not to enforce rules at crunch time when it benefited the other team. And vice versa

Put in perspective, I have seen "not enough men on the LOS" called 1000s of time. The Chiefs penalties and turnover rate are actually their biggest problem this year. Rice has broken Hill's rookie record. There have been way too many drive ending penalties. The rate is higher than other contenders by far.

The real problem is that the Chiefs can't score 3 touchdowns on their home court. Take care of bidness and you don't need to worry about last minute flags.