Kansas Crimson

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:17 am BREAKING: trump's gag order preventing him from attacking Judge Engoron's clerk in his fraud trial has just been reinstated by a NY Appeals court.

Imagine having to be forced NOT to threaten someone, and then imagine being a former President having to be forced NOT to threaten someone.

He is a daily disgrace.

Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:38 pm Recently-unsealed text exchanges exposed the extent of Republican Representative Scott Perry' involvement in the forming of the relationship between former Trump lawyer Jeff Clark and the former president himself.

SHOCKING NEW DETAILS expose Trump’s ATTEMPT TO STEAL ELECTION

[Speaker] Johnson: We have to blur some of the faces of persons who participated in the events of [January 6, 2021,] because we don’t want them to be retaliated against and to be charged by the DOJ

7/ Goodness gracious, these text messages.

Dec. 14, 2020:

"We the republican electors voted today...."

"Do said electors expect to actually be counted?"

"I certainly don't."

[…]

8/ Text message Dec. 31, 2020:

"Yeah in secret. It's not valid unless the court rule."

"Wisconsin is contested right? In secret meaning what"

"Technically no. Meaning we met and cast ballots but it wasn't official. Because it couldn't be."

[…]

9/ MOST incriminating:

"This is insane... if you received a favorable court ruling you could do it after
Who is coming up with this?"

"...They don’t want to have a technicality mess up the possible steal...
RPW and trump lawyers"

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:37 pm Does it go here, or in the FAFO thread, that DOJ asked for the Supreme Court to weigh in on Trump's immunity defense...and the Court has agreed to consider the motion (and asked Trump's counsel for briefing by next Wednesday).

Shirley wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:58 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:37 pm Does it go here, or in the FAFO thread, that DOJ asked for the Supreme Court to weigh in on Trump's immunity defense...and the Court has agreed to consider the motion (and asked Trump's counsel for briefing by next Wednesday).

I'm totally amazed they acted so fast.

My lizard brain tells me that's a good sign, for the anti-fascist side.

But, I might be biased.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:55 pm At least 2 SC justices will agree with DDD.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:25 pm

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:55 pm At least 2 SC justices will agree with DDD.

That's a really dangerous precedent to set. Not sure if they go that far. You can't have your President with blanket legal immunity or you just have an elected King.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:25 pm

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:55 pm At least 2 SC justices will agree with DDD.

That's a really dangerous precedent to set. Not sure if they go that far. You can't have your President with blanket legal immunity or you just have an elected King.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:12 pm I don’t think they will - there will be a Demonrat president again someday too, dontcha know.

But even if they do - let’s do it now. Let’s remove all doubt about the stakes in 2024.

Special counsel Jack Smith has extracted data from the cell phone Donald Trump used while in the White House and plans to present evidence of his findings to a Washington, D.C. jury to demonstrate how Trump used the phone in the weeks during which he attempted to subvert the 2020 election.

In a court filing Monday, Smith indicated that he plans to call an expert witness who extracted and reviewed data copied from Trump’s phone, as well as a phone used by another unidentified individual in Trump’s orbit.

The data from Trump’s phone could reveal day-to-day details of his final weeks in office, including his daily movements, his Twitter habits and any other aides who had access to his accounts and devices. The data, for example, could help show whether Trump personally approved or sent a fateful tweet attacking his vice president, Mike Pence, during the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

It’s unclear, though, what the extent of Smith’s access to Trump’s phone was. While Smith described in the filing using the data to view images, websites and locations, it's unclear if he accessed the substance of Trump’s communications or if anything was shielded due to executive privilege or other limits.

The trial in the case — in which Trump is charged with conspiring to disenfranchise millions of voters and derail the transfer of power — is scheduled to begin March 4.

The expert will describe to jurors “the usage of these phones throughout the post-election period, including on and around January 6, 2021,” when a mob of Trump supporters attacked the Capitol after Trump urged them to fight to “stop the steal.” The expert’s review also included “analyzing images found on the phones and websites visited.”

The expert testimony is the first explanation of how Smith plans to deploy a massive trove of data that prosecutors obtained from Twitter about Trump’s use of his powerful account.

The expert, who is not identified by name in the filing, will be able to “specifically” identify “the periods of time during which the defendant’s phone was unlocked and the Twitter application was open on January 6.”

The filing is the latest glimpse into the extraordinary evidence Smith has amassed in his probe, including testimony from dozens of Trump’s closest aides and advisers, including former Vice President Mike Pence.

Prosecutors obtained a search warrant to access Trump’s Twitter data in January and ultimately obtained a massive cache of data culled from Trump’s account, including location data.

However, the prosecution filing stops short of claiming that the experts will be able to prove that activity on the phones directly involved Trump. Trump’s phones were routinely managed by others, including his social media manager, Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino.

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:30 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:12 pm I don’t think they will - there will be a Demonrat president again someday too, dontcha know.

But even if they do - let’s do it now. Let’s remove all doubt about the stakes in 2024.

King Biden could act now.