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Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:58 pm
by sdoyel
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:56 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:41 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:39 pm
What a stupid fucking assessment to make.
Please tell why it entered your half wit thinking spot
Becuase if you're a parent (are you?) and don't think nearly all school shootings involve multiple breakdowns in parenting then i would be shocked.
I guess maybe I know the real stats more than you, a result of training in threat assessment.
To say “deep, it’s bad parenting” while ignoring school pressures, peer pressure, psychological issues or social placement as a factor…. at the same time acting like gun access isn’t the major contributing factor makes you look dumber than most of your posts do
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
by Deleted User 863
The argument from a position of authority. My fave. We know you're former law enforcement. Thanks for the reminder.
Still can't figure out how any of those things you listed stop the Oxford Michigan shooting being discussed.
It was done with a 9mm, purchased for the kid by his parents.
It starts with parenting.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:01 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave. We know you're former law enforcement. Thanks for the reminder.
Still can't figure out how any of those things you listed stop the Oxford Michigan shooting being discussed.
It was done with a 9mm, purchased for the kid by his parents.
It starts with parenting.
Parenting is definitely a contributing factor.
However, you were throwing around stats from 1972, so please indulge me how those stats have anything to do with this situation?
Once again, your troll game is stronger than your knowledge of the scenario
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:03 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave.
I can only imagine how weak it makes you feel
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:03 pm
by ousdahl
I think I get it now.
Clearly this wouldn’t happen if the kid didn’t have access to parents.
Time to ban parents!
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:04 pm
by jhawks99
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:09 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:59 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:28 pm
Well, if they did, they'd be fine with the government studying how this happens and what can be done to prevent tragedies like this from happening in in the future.
FYP psych, sorry it doesn't fit your hyperbole.
I’m sure it is being studied, but the anti-gun and pro-gun people will be disappointed with the outcome, because it won’t be a simple checklist. It will include Dopamine reward pathway abnormalities that stem from early and prolonged exposure to smartphones and tablets, loss of empathy from social media and video games, and lack of attentive parents, to name a few.
Why can't this be studied like vehicular deaths? Only one party opposes this. Any attempt at reducing gun deaths is met with a stone wall and slippery slope arguments.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:08 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:03 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave.
I can only imagine how weak it makes you feel
Now that sounds like a former cop. Thinking everyone feels weak in comparison to you.
Probably a glorified former mall security officer. Why did you stop and start selling boats/making shitty boat commercials? Get fired from the force for being a wannabe tough guy?
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:10 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:01 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave. We know you're former law enforcement. Thanks for the reminder.
Still can't figure out how any of those things you listed stop the Oxford Michigan shooting being discussed.
It was done with a 9mm, purchased for the kid by his parents.
It starts with parenting.
Parenting is definitely a contributing factor.
However, you were throwing around stats from 1972, so please indulge me how those stats have anything to do with this situation?
I could only find civilian guns per capita stats for each year back to 1972.
I was very surprised to see it was unchanged (actually slightly lower) in 2021 compared to 1972.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:11 pm
by Deleted User 863
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:04 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:09 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:59 pm
FYP psych, sorry it doesn't fit your hyperbole.
I’m sure it is being studied, but the anti-gun and pro-gun people will be disappointed with the outcome, because it won’t be a simple checklist. It will include Dopamine reward pathway abnormalities that stem from early and prolonged exposure to smartphones and tablets, loss of empathy from social media and video games, and lack of attentive parents, to name a few.
Why can't this be studied like vehicular deaths? Only one party opposes this. Any attempt at reducing gun deaths is met with a stone wall and slippery slope arguments.
It is studied.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:13 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:08 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:03 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave.
I can only imagine how weak it makes you feel
Probably a glorified former mall security officer. Why did you stop and start selling boats/making shitty boat commercials?
You know why, yet, as per usual… you prefer playing the troll
The one thing you excel at
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:13 pm
by sdoyel
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:11 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:04 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:09 pm
I’m sure it is being studied, but the anti-gun and pro-gun people will be disappointed with the outcome, because it won’t be a simple checklist. It will include Dopamine reward pathway abnormalities that stem from early and prolonged exposure to smartphones and tablets, loss of empathy from social media and video games, and lack of attentive parents, to name a few.
Why can't this be studied like vehicular deaths? Only one party opposes this. Any attempt at reducing gun deaths is met with a stone wall and slippery slope arguments.
It is studied.
How many school shootings are at the hands of white males with conservative parents?
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:13 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:08 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:03 pm
I can only imagine how weak it makes you feel
Probably a glorified former mall security officer. Why did you stop and start selling boats/making shitty boat commercials?
You know why, yet, as per usual… you prefer playing the troll
The one thing you excel at
I actually don't know why, nor do i care, but carry on.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:15 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:10 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:01 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:59 pm
The argument from a position of authority. My fave. We know you're former law enforcement. Thanks for the reminder.
Still can't figure out how any of those things you listed stop the Oxford Michigan shooting being discussed.
It was done with a 9mm, purchased for the kid by his parents.
It starts with parenting.
Parenting is definitely a contributing factor.
However, you were throwing around stats from 1972, so please indulge me how those stats have anything to do with this situation?
I could only find civilian guns per capita stats for each year back to 1972.
I was very surprised to see it was unchanged (actually slightly lower) in 2021 compared to 1972.
Have you ever considered the increase in available round count per weapon?
Of course not, you have no fucking idea.
Doesn’t even slow you down though
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:16 pm
by Deleted User 863
sdoyel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:13 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:11 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:04 pm
Why can't this be studied like vehicular deaths? Only one party opposes this. Any attempt at reducing gun deaths is met with a stone wall and slippery slope arguments.
It is studied.
How many school shootings are at the hands of white males with conservative parents?
Too many.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:20 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:15 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:10 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:01 pm
Parenting is definitely a contributing factor.
However, you were throwing around stats from 1972, so please indulge me how those stats have anything to do with this situation?
I could only find civilian guns per capita stats for each year back to 1972.
I was very surprised to see it was unchanged (actually slightly lower) in 2021 compared to 1972.
Have you ever considered the increase in available round count per weapon?
Of course not, you have no fucking idea.
Doesn’t even slow you down though
Why do more kids want to shoot up schools in 2021 than they did in 1975?
If a similar amount of school shootings were occuring in 1975, but in 2021 they were far more deadly, then I would see your point.....but the problem is that 40 50 60 years ago it seems FAR less kids wanted to shoot up schools in the first place because they were rare occurrences.
All of your points are valid gun related issues. I just don't think they're the main cause for the astronomical increase in school shootings the last 25 years.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:21 pm
by Deleted User 863
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:22 pm
by Overlander
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:20 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:15 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:10 pm
I could only find civilian guns per capita stats for each year back to 1972.
I was very surprised to see it was unchanged (actually slightly lower) in 2021 compared to 1972.
Have you ever considered the increase in available round count per weapon?
Of course not, you have no fucking idea.
Doesn’t even slow you down though
Why do more kids want to shoot up schools in 2021 than they did in 1975?
Seriously, no one person could be this fucking stupid
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:23 pm
by Deleted User 863
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:22 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:20 pm
Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:15 pm
Have you ever considered the increase in available round count per weapon?
Of course not, you have no fucking idea.
Doesn’t even slow you down though
Why do more kids want to shoot up schools in 2021 than they did in 1975?
Seriously, no one person could be this fucking stupid
You don't think it is a fact that more kids shoot up schools in 2021 than they did in 1975?
Its a fact plano. It happens way more now.
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:23 pm
by Overlander
Haven’t had a drink in a few weeks.
I could see your hoping that was the case. So much easier than admitting that you are a trolling twat who once again argues shit that you know nothing about
Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:25 pm
by Deleted User 863
I know nothing about school shootings?
Only former law enforcement knows about school shootings?
You're not a parent are you?