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Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:16 pm
by ousdahl
so. ready. for. HOOPS!
And ready for no fewer than 3 experienced ballhandling guards to be integrated into the rotation.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:21 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:14 pm
posters gonna loose their minds if Dajuan starts over Remy
As they should.
But, it is kinda crazy how fans, and now the media, have taken Self's quote and tried to turn it into something. Perhaps Borzello doesn't know Self yet.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:24 pm
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:21 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:14 pm
posters gonna loose their minds if Dajuan starts over Remy
As they should.
But, it is kinda crazy how fans, and now the media, have taken Self's quote and tried to turn it into something. Perhaps Borzello doesn't know Self yet.
meh...i don’t think they should loose their minds necessarily
Remy could be a horrible fit and Dajuan could’ve made huge gains over the summer
i trust Self to put the guys on the floor that gives the team the best chance to win, regardless of past performance or accolades
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:28 pm
by ousdahl
Dajuan may start at least early, cuz he “knows the system” and blah blah blah.
But at the same time, and has been noted, coach talk is pretty useless this time of year.
I mean, this time last year, coach was talking about Enaroona starting
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:30 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:21 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:14 pm
posters gonna loose their minds if Dajuan starts over Remy
As they should.
But, it is kinda crazy how fans, and now the media, have taken Self's quote and tried to turn it into something. Perhaps Borzello doesn't know Self yet.
meh...i don’t think they should loose their minds necessarily
Remy could be a horrible fit and Dajuan could’ve made huge gains over the summer
i trust Self to put the guys on the floor that gives the team the best chance to win, regardless of past performance or accolades
But that is completely different from what Self said about the situation.
And, it's not some secret that Bill fucked up the guard situation last season and clearly wanted to address it via transfer. Hell, Fran was talking about bringing transfer guards in February, so the staff already knew what the fans could see: big time overhaul.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:36 pm
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:30 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:24 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:21 pm
As they should.
But, it is kinda crazy how fans, and now the media, have taken Self's quote and tried to turn it into something. Perhaps Borzello doesn't know Self yet.
meh...i don’t think they should loose their minds necessarily
Remy could be a horrible fit and Dajuan could’ve made huge gains over the summer
i trust Self to put the guys on the floor that gives the team the best chance to win, regardless of past performance or accolades
But that is completely different from what Self said about the situation.
Self said Dajuan is in a position to compete for the starting spot
that tells me either Remy isn’t as good as some made him out to be (or isn’t quite gelling yet), or that Dajuan progressed markedly from last season...or some combination of those
or, as Ousie pointed out, it’s just coach speak, means jack shit, and is only intended to motivate both players
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:41 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:36 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:30 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:24 pm
meh...i don’t think they should loose their minds necessarily
Remy could be a horrible fit and Dajuan could’ve made huge gains over the summer
i trust Self to put the guys on the floor that gives the team the best chance to win, regardless of past performance or accolades
But that is completely different from what Self said about the situation.
Self said Dajuan is in a position to compete for the starting spot
that tells me either Remy isn’t as good as some made him out to be (or isn’t quite gelling yet), or that Dajuan progressed markedly from last season...or some combination of those
or, as Ousie pointed out, it’s just coach speak, means jack shit, and is only intended to motivate both players
What he said was that if we had a game that day (it was September), Dajuan would probably start because he has been here for 3 years and isn't currently injured (like Remy was).
People are focusing on the wrong part of his quote.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:52 pm
by Deleted User 89
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:41 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:36 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:30 pm
But that is completely different from what Self said about the situation.
Self said Dajuan is in a position to compete for the starting spot
that tells me either Remy isn’t as good as some made him out to be (or isn’t quite gelling yet), or that Dajuan progressed markedly from last season...or some combination of those
or, as Ousie pointed out, it’s just coach speak, means jack shit, and is only intended to motivate both players
What he said was that if we had a game that day (it was September), Dajuan would probably start because he has been here for 3 years and isn't currently injured (like Remy was).
People are focusing on the wrong part of his quote.
ahhh...gotcha. i was responding to your post with the Borzelo stuff. i didn’t read the actual quote.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:54 pm
by ousdahl
Re: guard overhaul, I can’t help but think we’ll end up with 2 smalls on the floor more often than not.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:57 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:52 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:41 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:36 pm
Self said Dajuan is in a position to compete for the starting spot
that tells me either Remy isn’t as good as some made him out to be (or isn’t quite gelling yet), or that Dajuan progressed markedly from last season...or some combination of those
or, as Ousie pointed out, it’s just coach speak, means jack shit, and is only intended to motivate both players
What he said was that if we had a game that day (it was September), Dajuan would probably start because he has been here for 3 years and isn't currently injured (like Remy was).
People are focusing on the wrong part of his quote.
ahhh...gotcha. i was responding to your post with the Borzelo stuff. i didn’t read the actual quote.
Ah, right. It seems like an example of how even an honest (mis)interpretation of a cryptic quote can create a story.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:00 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Dajuan did play pretty will in the Late Night scrimmage, for what that is worth. But, imo, Och looked far away the best player on the court, then CB, then probably Wilson (for body alone) or Dajuan.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:03 pm
by ousdahl
Yea. I kinda hope I’m wrong, cuz that means one of the more “wing” guards turned a corner.
Whatever lineup it takes, I just hope we don’t see those stagnant stretches and games in the 50s any more.
And, for the love of Allah, no more getting blown out!
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:08 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Unless Remy takes his game to an AA level, we're going to need some consistent scoring off the bench to not go through dry spells. I just don't know if that is going to come from Harris via playmaking, JCL through shooting, or Yesufu's all around game.
Kinda wondering if Yesufu was brought in more to develop for a monster 2023 season.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:11 pm
by ousdahl
Och and Jalen are both potential AA candidates too.
Och the obvious favorite. But if Jalen is putting up like 16 and 10 and 4 assists or something, and acting like the man on a top 5 team, he won’t not get accolades.
And heck, DMac too
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:55 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:11 pm
Och and Jalen are both potential AA candidates too.
Och the obvious favorite. But if Jalen is putting up like 16 and 10 and 4 assists or something, and acting like the man on a top 5 team, he won’t not get accolades.
And heck, DMac too
What about Braun?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:57 pm
by ousdahl
Heck, him too!
at least this year, I think there are more likely candidates for an AA campaign
but I’ve been wrong before, and would be thrilled if Braun becomes a star.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:16 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I'm thinking of the older Spurs teams where there weren't a lot of individual accolades but had a solid rotation of experienced vets that all had big games on different nights. And then Remy will play the Ginobili role of taking over the ball in one possession clutch scenarios.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:33 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:57 pm
Heck, him too!
at least this year, I think there are more likely candidates for an AA campaign
but I’ve been wrong before, and would be thrilled if Braun becomes a star.
I think our balance will make it unlikely anyone puts up big enough numbers for 1st team AA.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:34 pm
by Deleted User 863
CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:16 pm
then Remy will play the Ginobili role of taking over the ball in one possession clutch scenarios.
Wouldn't be shocked if it is actually Och this year.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:39 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:33 pm
I think our balance will make it unlikely anyone puts up big enough numbers for 1st team AA.
What about Braun?
