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Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:05 am
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:28 am
Tony is just over 15k receiving yards.
I don't think Travis gets there.
I'd say, at best, we see him next season.
To quote Mickey from Rocky: "Women weaken legs."
I would bet you can graph Kelce's production throughout his career and there will be a precipitous decline right about the time TayTay came into the picture. Dude is distracted and still looks out of shape. Can't get away with that in the NFL.
I'm sure hitting 35 and the accompanying changes in priorities and the natural physical decline also play a part. Either way, it is a shame and doesn't bode well for a threepeat.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:18 am
by pdub
While in this case, I do think his relationship ( and offseason ) with this particular woman has affected, in combination with his age, AND I secretly also think Andy being a long term mastermind game planner, his performance this season, the broad blanket statement, "women weaken legs" is very stupid.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:02 pm
by Shirley
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:18 am
While in this case, I do think his relationship ( and offseason ) with this particular woman has affected, in combination with his age, AND I secretly also think Andy being a long term mastermind game planner, his performance this season, the broad blanket statement, "women weaken legs" is very stupid.
No shit.
If I heard my father* say it once, I heard him say it a thousand times throughout my childhood and teens, "girls will ruin your athletics and your grades".
Nonetheless and fortunately, I got over it.
* "father" This is the same man who, (in the late 60s) after watching my older brother play all 3 years of Jr High on an all-White basketball team that took first in the city league 2 of those 3 years, was now forced to watch him sit on the bench as a sophomore in high school playing behind several Black players, stood up during a game and yelled in a loud voice:
"Pretty soon, it's going to come down to whether Our ______ can beat your ______"! Much to my chagrin, since I was sitting there next to him. My father was a big and imposing person, and if anyone took umbrage, you could't tell.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
by pdub
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:02 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:18 am
While in this case, I do think his relationship ( and offseason ) with this particular woman has affected, in combination with his age, AND I secretly also think Andy being a long term mastermind game planner, his performance this season, the broad blanket statement, "women weaken legs" is very stupid.
No shit.
If I heard my father* say it once, I heard him say it a thousand times throughout my childhood and teens, "girls will ruin your athletics and your grades".
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:02 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:18 am
While in this case, I do think his relationship ( and offseason ) with this particular woman has affected, in combination with his age, AND I secretly also think Andy being a long term mastermind game planner, his performance this season, the broad blanket statement, "women weaken legs" is very stupid.
No shit.
If I heard my father* say it once, I heard him say it a thousand times throughout my childhood and teens, "girls will ruin your athletics and your grades".
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:13 pm
by pdub
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:02 pm
No shit.
If I heard my father* say it once, I heard him say it a thousand times throughout my childhood and teens, "girls will ruin your athletics and your grades".
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
Considering your history as a poster regarding women, you can see how I could have made that 'mistake'.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:14 pm
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:13 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
Considering your history as a poster regarding women, you can see how I could have made that 'mistake'.
Whatever. You guys see what you want to see.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:39 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:02 pm
No shit.
If I heard my father* say it once, I heard him say it a thousand times throughout my childhood and teens, "girls will ruin your athletics and your grades".
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
If the Chiefs tackles were playing well, the offense and it's players would look just fine. Mahomes doesn't have enough time to let more complicated routes develop and Kelce doesn't have enough time to do much of the things he is best at.
This seems like a football problem, not a girlfriend problem.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:22 pm
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:03 pm
They can.
But they don't by default ( of course ).
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
If the Chiefs tackles were playing well, the offense and it's players would look just fine. Mahomes doesn't have enough time to let more complicated routes develop and Kelce doesn't have enough time to do much of the things he is best at.
This seems like a football problem, not a girlfriend problem.
I would agree that the o-line is part of the problem.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:52 pm
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:22 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:39 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
If the Chiefs tackles were playing well, the offense and it's players would look just fine. Mahomes doesn't have enough time to let more complicated routes develop and Kelce doesn't have enough time to do much of the things he is best at.
This seems like a football problem, not a girlfriend problem.
I would agree that the o-line is part of the problem.
There have definitely been times when I didn't feel that the team looked like they had focused well enough during the week of preparation but they're 12-1. Yeah, I guess they could be better but....
First world NFL problems.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:13 pm
by jhawks99
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:14 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:13 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:12 pm
You took my tongue-in-cheek comment literally. It was not intended as such. All of the touring and publicity and everything else TayTay has taken a toll. Is that all women? No. It seems to be THIS woman - at least to some degree.
Considering your history as a poster regarding women, you can see how I could have made that 'mistake'.
Whatever. You guys see what you want to see.
Whatever, we read what you wrote. Before you backtrack it.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:32 pm
by Shirley
Kelcy could do worse:
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:39 pm
by JKLivin
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:13 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:14 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:13 pm
Considering your history as a poster regarding women, you can see how I could have made that 'mistake'.
Whatever. You guys see what you want to see.
Whatever, we read what you wrote. Before you backtrack it.
You interpret it according to your own bias filter.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:41 pm
by JKLivin
Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:32 pm
Kelcy could do worse:
You make me reconsider my disbelief that there is actually such a thing as a mangina.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:56 pm
by KUTradition
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:39 pm
jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:13 pm
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:14 pm
Whatever. You guys see what you want to see.
Whatever, we read what you wrote. Before you backtrack it.
You interpret it according to your own bias filter.
if everyone else in the room is an asshole…
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:56 pm
by pdub
"You make me reconsider my disbelief that there is actually such a thing as a mangina."
It's wild to me that you teach psychology.
You'd be a perfect study for someone who is terrified of feelings and emotional intelligence.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:57 pm
by KUTradition
lol
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:31 pm
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:56 pm
"You make me reconsider my disbelief that there is actually such a thing as a mangina."
It's wild to me that you teach psychology.
You'd be a perfect study for someone who is terrified of feelings and emotional intelligence.
What is apparent is that Shirley is projecting his negative emotions about his father onto me. I don’t provide that service for free.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:50 pm
by Shirley
JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:31 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:56 pm
"You make me reconsider my disbelief that there is actually such a thing as a mangina."
It's wild to me that you teach psychology.
You'd be a perfect study for someone who is terrified of feelings and emotional intelligence.
What is apparent is that Shirley is projecting his negative emotions about his father onto me. I don’t provide that service for free.
Sorry Psych, but I'm not into you like that.
Re: Chiefs 2024
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:33 pm
by kubowler99
I was at that '03 game. Saw that fumble coming. Just Brutal.