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Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:12 pm
by DCHawk1
It's technology more than just social media. Twenty-five years ago, the very idea of EVERYONE in a crowd having a pocket-sized HD camera to take video from different perspectives -- and then to use those videos to push narratives, identify players, etc. -- would have been ridiculous.
But here we are.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:28 pm
by Geezer
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:38 pm
by DCHawk1
And...there's the value in everyone having a pocket-sized HD camera. The video undermines her claims entirely.
But again, you do you.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:41 pm
by Geezer
you do you.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:43 pm
by DCHawk1
Good one!
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:03 pm
by Geezer
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:18 pm
by ousdahl
Which gets more credence in America:
first hand accounts of the blacks and injuns?
orrr
Press releases from whitey penned by professional agencies and cherry picking cell phone videos?
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:21 pm
by DCHawk1
Geezer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:03 pm
The question you have to ask is "which account?" He's given at least three now.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:22 pm
by DCHawk1
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:18 pm
Which gets more credence in America:
first hand accounts of the blacks and injuns?
orrr
Press releases from whitey penned by professional agencies and cherry picking cell phone videos?
Wait. Who cherrypicked the videos?
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:34 pm
by ousdahl
Everyone who watched, apparently?
Cell phone vids are just that - amateur documented footage of an unscripted event with a shitload of shit going on.
One could feasibly scrutinize every last detail and come up with sumptin to fit whatever narrative they want. Sure, if it definitely catches something, that’s one thing, but there’s a lot of chaos to dissect.
And just reading between the lines, “a bunch of smartass teens in MAGA hats were heckling us minorities” seems more plausible than “a bunch of belligerent black dudes were yelling hate speech at us so we asked our chaperone for permission to go sing them our school fight song.”
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:37 pm
by ousdahl
Actually, do the vids provide any evidence of school spirit?
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:34 pm
by DCHawk1
no. But they do prove that the Black Hebrews are dickheads.
But anyone who has been in DC for more than a few minutes knows that.
Where's Russian?
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:58 pm
by Deleted User 62
So, the mom blames "black muslims".
Any relation to "Black Hebrews"?
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 am
by seahawk
So, some snotty kids whose parents pay big bucks so that Catholic school kids can feel they've gotten a better education than all those kids in schools that are more diverse or than those kids who are actually minority, acted out in public in a way that snotty, racist Catholic school boys seem to have a tendency toward.
What seems surprising is that the well-off teens don't seem any more conscious than cops of how they look on video.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:28 am
by Deleted User 89
i like to call it “the kardashian effect”
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:48 am
by twocoach
Good lord. There's a lot of people bending themselves into pretzel knots trying to find some way to still bash these kids. It's OK to say "based on the initial information I was provided I thought these kids were racist pricks but after receiving more information I do not feel the same way".
We don't need to double down on the craziness and start to invent scenarios to justify our faux outrage.
Duped by a fake twitter account created to amplify this sort of stuff:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twi ... index.html
Dig hard enough and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the Russians, Chinese or North Koreans were behind such efforts to sow more discord in our nation. This is what they do and how they do it and as we have displayed, it works very effectively.
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:08 am
by ousdahl
more thoughts:
- yeah the clickbait sensationalism of media these days certainly doesn't help
- yeah cell phone vids and social media certainly do offer new perspectives
- cell phone vids and social media will likely help advance civil rights, considering that for so long the narrative would have simply been left at, "those Black Hebrews are dickheads and poor whitey's off the hook again!"
- of all times and places to stir up a racial controversy, this went down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, right where MLK Jr. delivered his "I Have A Dream" speech.
- we as a country still have a long way to go
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:33 am
by Deleted User 183
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:34 pm
no. But they do prove that the Black Hebrews are dickheads.
But anyone who has been in DC for more than a few minutes knows that.
Where's Russian?
Are White Black Catholic kids or maybe I should say Black White Catholic kids dickheads?
I don't think so. Supposedly it was a "black out" game. If so, seems a few of the kids went all out and "blacked out".
I can see how others might be quick to judge them harshly.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covin ... ack-paint/
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:35 am
by Deleted User 89
Re: Today in "so much winning"!
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:45 am
by twocoach
Video doesnt lie but it sure as shit doesn't tell the whole story either.