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Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:46 pm
by ousdahl
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:29 pm
ksu was missing their shots.
they made em in the 2nd half.
someone is going to say 'because Vick was in' but he wasn't the reason why ksu was hitting their shots.
people just want a culprit.
( grimes 5 turnovers, 1 rebound. dedric misses 9 shots, 4 turnovers. dotson misses 7 shots, 4 turnovers -- but but Vick!!! ya'all are embarrassing )
Dangit y’all are right
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:48 pm
by sdoyel
You had 3 frosh starters turn the ball over 13 times. That’s the culprit.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:50 pm
by pdub
Right.
Agbaji was worse on the stat sheet than Vick ( 6 pts, 4 reb, 0 assists, 4 turnovers ) but he's cool.
GET VICK OUT! KICK HIM OFF THE TEAM!
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:51 pm
by holidaysmore
I’m not blaming Vick. He is who he is. It was unrealistic to expect a fourth option and some what of a questionable background to be the man. Blame Self. He took him back.
This team lacks a leader. Zero accountability. Clearly Self isn’t getting through to them. Neither are the assistants. This team is a bunch of nice guys who when things get tough back down and collapse but what do you expect from three freshman who have never been in these type of situations before.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:54 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
holidaysmore wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:51 pm
I’m not blaming Vick. He is who he is. It was unrealistic to expect a fourth option and some what of a questionable background to be the man. Blame Self. He took him back.
This team lacks a leader. Zero accountability. Clearly Self isn’t getting through to them. Neither are the assistants. This team is a bunch of nice guys who when things get tough back down and collapse but what do you expect from three freshman who have never been in these type of situations before.
This is exactly right. It's a lot easier to stomach it from freshmen, but yes, a large portion of the struggles this season fall on Bill botching his GM role for the 2018, 2019, and possibly 2020 season.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:56 pm
by pdub
I see your 'fourth' option dig and raise you this:
He is averaging the same PPG/more PPG than Svi and Malik last season on better FG%.
As i've said before, he's a great 3rd option but a below average 2nd.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:58 pm
by ousdahl
The worst thing about Vick how is he a fuckin senior net looss of leadership on the court and off
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:02 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:48 pm
You had 3 frosh starters turn the ball over 13 times. That’s the culprit.
Yet Bill still wanted them out there over the senior.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:05 pm
by pdub
Player A
14.5 PPG, 50% FG, 46% 3FG, 4 RPG, 1.9 APG
Player B
14.6 PPG, 43% FG, 44% 3FG, 3.9 RPG, 2.7 APG
Player C
14.2 PPG, 46% FG, 41% 3FG, 5 RPG, 2.1 APG
Would you say that one is significantly better than the other?
One of those players is also a focal point of an offense without a Devonte Graham, without a Frank Mason, so it is easier to focus on him.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:09 pm
by sdoyel
I’m taking player A due to better FG percentages.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:12 pm
by pdub
You just picked Vick.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:16 pm
by sdoyel
A guy shooting 50% from the floor should be shooting more. 14.5ppg isn’t enough.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:18 pm
by pdub
If Vick shot more, 90% of you on here would be loosing your shit even more than you are now.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:20 pm
by pdub
Player A 11 FGA/PG.
Player B 12.1 FGA/PG.
Player C 10.3 FGA/PG.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:21 pm
by sdoyel
When is the players only meeting happening?
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 pm
by sdoyel
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:18 pm
If Vick shot more, 90% of you on here would be loosing your shit even more than you are now.
I’m with you. I’ve given Vick some shots, but I’m also on the side of “how do we win basketball games with Vick on our bench?”
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 pm
by pdub
I haven't given up.
OSU, @ TCU and WVU.
Win those 3 and see where we are at.
Drop any of of those and I might be joining the likes of CnB and doyel.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:24 pm
by pdub
And if you take care of those, you've got the @ Tech, which loomed for us last season, and we stole it ( with Vonte's trick shots ).
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:24 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:18 pm
If Vick shot more, 90% of you on here would be loosing your shit even more than you are now.
I’m with you. I’ve given Vick some shots, but I’m also on the side of “how do we win basketball games with Vick on our bench?”
I'd be much happier with Vick if he went 4 of 17 tonight.
Re: This Team
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:25 pm
by pdub
LOL.
No you wouldn't.