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Yeah, I had a funny feeling this morning, but sticking it out at work doing what I can. Took some anti-nausea/vomiting medicine as a precaution.

But I have a feeling I may be hurting tonight.

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HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:36 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:10 pm i think edison actually invented a “cage” for kids where you could control temperature and humidity to regulate sleep patterns (among other things)

That was B.F. Skinner, actually. It was a larger version of the one he used to train rats, only for human babies. He believed that a machine could do a better job of raising kids than humans. He actually put his own daughter in the prototype to demonstrate, but admitted failure after a short time. I’m sure Mrs. Skinner had a great deal to do with that conclusion.

thanks for the correction

coulda sworn it was edison...probably should have realized it wasn’t when the google machine failed to provide a link

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:33 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:36 am

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:10 pm i think edison actually invented a “cage” for kids where you could control temperature and humidity to regulate sleep patterns (among other things)

That was B.F. Skinner, actually. It was a larger version of the one he used to train rats, only for human babies. He believed that a machine could do a better job of raising kids than humans. He actually put his own daughter in the prototype to demonstrate, but admitted failure after a short time. I’m sure Mrs. Skinner had a great deal to do with that conclusion.

thanks for the correction

coulda sworn it was edison...probably should have realized it wasn’t when the google machine failed to provide a link

Lots of similarities between Edison and Skinner. Both were probably high-functioning Autistic, and neither one had much in the way of social skills. Both were also undoubtedly geniuses who made a positive impact on the world, but also pissed off a lot of people along the way. Part of the fascinating thing that is human nature.

Skinner lived on Avalon St. In Lawrence.

defixione wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:03 pm Skinner lived on Avalon St. In Lawrence.

That makes sense.

SNOPES says the Skinner box was merely a crib with temp & humidity control. He was living in Minnesota and babies were put in many many layers of cloths to keep warm. Then they’d get too hot, then sweaty, then chill. Tons of clothing to wash and very uncomfortable babies that couldn’t move. So the climate-controlled crib allowed for a comfortable baby in a diaper. That is pretty much how we raise babies now if you have AC and central heating.

DrPepper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:40 pm SNOPES says the Skinner box was merely a crib with temp & humidity control. He was living in Minnesota and babies were put in many many layers of cloths to keep warm. Then they’d get too hot, then sweaty, then chill. Tons of clothing to wash and very uncomfortable babies that couldn’t move. So the climate-controlled crib allowed for a comfortable baby in a diaper. That is pretty much how we raise babies now if you have AC and central heating.

Meh. Not what I was taught. Snopes is pretty suspect anymore.

A friend of mine who is/was head of the psych department at KU lives next door to where Skinner used to live. My friend told me all about the box and it's a whole lot more disconcerting than Snope's appraisal.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:24 pm

DrPepper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:40 pm SNOPES says the Skinner box was merely a crib with temp & humidity control. He was living in Minnesota and babies were put in many many layers of cloths to keep warm. Then they’d get too hot, then sweaty, then chill. Tons of clothing to wash and very uncomfortable babies that couldn’t move. So the climate-controlled crib allowed for a comfortable baby in a diaper. That is pretty much how we raise babies now if you have AC and central heating.

Meh. Not what I was taught. Snopes is pretty suspect anymore.

years ago when i worked retail i met a guy that was looking for digital hygrometers and thermostats...he was being real evasive when i pressed him about what he was using them for. eventually i got him to spill the beans, and he even ended up coming back and showing me actual construction plans that he had dug up...much more involved and complex than a crib. it was much more like a terrarium, minus anything on the interior. i think he was using acrylic for the walls, but the original plans had glass

In a sammich deli for lunch when a family comes in with two little kids. From the moment they walk in the door, at least one of the kids is either screeching and/or crying. One rolled around on the floor wailing cuz dad wouldn’t let him have Cheetos or some shit.

At what point is it appropriate to say something?

unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

My kid pulled that once. We went out to the parking lot and had a discussion and then went back into the mart. 20+ years later, it's still referred to as "The Discussion". Hopefully, you are only seeing a snapshot and they kids are not like that 24x7.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:47 pm unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

right...no words, just a quick punch to the back of the head of everyone in the family.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:47 pm unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

What if it’s phrased such as, your kids are examples of why I never wanna have any of my own?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:10 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:47 pm unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

What if it’s phrased such as, your kids are examples of why I never wanna have any of my own?

that’s what the misses and i say [under our breath]

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:10 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:47 pm unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

What if it’s phrased such as, your kids are examples of why I never wanna have any of my own?

It’s not the kids’ fault. That’s 100% a parenting problem.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:40 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:10 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:47 pm unless you’ve got kids, it’s never appropriate...or, at least that’s what i’m told

What if it’s phrased such as, your kids are examples of why I never wanna have any of my own?

It’s not the kids’ fault. That’s 100% a parenting problem.

Ding ding ding.

totally agree