Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:09 am**

1. He should've stayed with April

2. How the fuck we're they never loaded up and trucking in that show. His car shouldve at least been names Ol' Bandit or something

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:18 am**

I’m goin to Shabooms!

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:15 am**

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:33 pm
japhy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:57 am at the risk of becoming evil, i’m bout to become a share-holder in my company (preemptive retention plan)

now i just need the housing bubble to burst so i can swoop in and make a killer investment
Don't worry too much about selling your soul. The cash you can get for that shit will allow you to buy all kinds of cool stuff to fill the void.
Like, a Jet Ski?

Start off with something that makes your life simpler, hire a housekeeper. Get used to having someone come into your home once a week to vacuum up all the animal fur and put all the toys away and scrub the floors.

Once you get used to having other people take care of shit for you, then buy stuff that adds responsibility like a jet ski or a Harley that is so heavy you are afraid to ride the fucker for fear it will tip over on you while waiting at a stoplight and the guy in the car behind you will have to help you pick it up so that traffic can move again (yeah, I had a partner who owned a Harley for 10 years and rode it once because of just such an incident). Once you get the hang of this become an audiophile, that is a rabbit hole you can pour tons of cash into.

Ease into it, you have the rest of your miserable life to become truly evil.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:28 pm**

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:15 am
Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:33 pm
japhy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 pm

Don't worry too much about selling your soul. The cash you can get for that shit will allow you to buy all kinds of cool stuff to fill the void.
Like, a Jet Ski?
Start off with something that makes your life simpler, hire a housekeeper. Get used to having someone come into your home once a week to vacuum up all the animal fur and put all the toys away and scrub the floors.

Once you get used to having other people take care of shit for you, then buy stuff that adds responsibility like a jet ski or a Harley that is so heavy you are afraid to ride the fucker for fear it will tip over on you while waiting at a stoplight and the guy in the car behind you will have to help you pick it up so that traffic can move again (yeah, I had a partner who owned a Harley for 10 years and rode it once because of just such an incident). Once you get the hang of this become an audiophile, that is a rabbit hole you can pour tons of cash into.

Ease into it, you have the rest of your miserable life to become truly evil.

Yep.
It’s like people asking “how can you spend 30k on a pop up camper?”

1) I can afford to

2). Overlanding gives me juice, recharges my batteries

I tell young people all the time. Take that thing you want to do and freaking do it. Do it correct.

Life is short, shorter for some than others. And their is nothing more expensive than regret

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm**

i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:50 pm**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping

I never owned and OHV, the thought of hauling a trailer to Colorado and then driving another vehicle into the woods always seemed inefficient to me. Plus I cringe at the thought of pulling a trailer through he mountains.

I used to have a fishing truck. A 1997 Toyota 4Runner with electronic lockers and an OME suspension. It was a tank and turned on a dime and had a narrow body. And it was just big enough in the back to haul gear and four people in it. The plus being it could be driven to Colorado and back, no trailer to fuck with. I suspect it would go anywhere most OHVs could and then some. If you have the cash the Jeep Rubicon Overlander drives seems to be a beast. Older Land Rover Discovery's are durable as hell and comfortable but getting them repaired can be a bitch depending on where you are when they break down. Mine always broke down at home but friends weren't so lucky and they had a horror story of towing there's 300 miles to Santa Fe NM. On a budget the old third generation 4Runners are hard to beat. If I couldn't get someplace in that vehicle I figured it should probably hike in. I pulled up to a crossing in the Los Pinos Gorge one time in the Toyota. There were three OHVs standing there looking at the river and trying to decide what to do. We rolled across the Los Pinos, no hesitation, while they observed. They ended up not following us.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:42 pm**

japhy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:50 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping
I never owned and OHV, the thought of hauling a trailer to Colorado and then driving another vehicle into the woods always seemed inefficient to me. Plus I cringe at the thought of pulling a trailer through he mountains.

I used to have a fishing truck. A 1997 Toyota 4Runner with electronic lockers and an OME suspension. It was a tank and turned on a dime and had a narrow body. And it was just big enough in the back to haul gear and four people in it. The plus being it could be driven to Colorado and back, no trailer to fuck with. I suspect it would go anywhere most OHVs could and then some. If you have the cash the Jeep Rubicon Overlander drives seems to be a beast. Older Land Rover Discovery's are durable as hell and comfortable but getting them repaired can be a bitch depending on where you are when they break down. Mine always broke down at home but friends weren't so lucky and they had a horror story of towing there's 300 miles to Santa Fe NM. On a budget the old third generation 4Runners are hard to beat. If I couldn't get someplace in that vehicle I figured it should probably hike in. I pulled up to a crossing in the Los Pinos Gorge one time in the Toyota. There were three OHVs standing there looking at the river and trying to decide what to do. We rolled across the Los Pinos, no hesitation, while they observed. They ended up not following us.

i hear ya, and have considered that route myself

i used to have an ‘84 4Runner with the removable hard top. i hate that i got rid of it when i lived in Kansas since it would obviously be a treasure out here

we’ve got a 2018 Tundra that’ll go anywhere, but i’m not about to push its limits given its price tag

it’s a tough choice, which is why i’ve not done anything yet

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:16 pm**

OHVs are a blast, but the thing about them is, they’re still pretty much limited to roads.

(Albeit forest roads and such)

Maybe there’s places in the desert and stuff you can just go ripping an OHV wherever, but most alpine environments and wilderness areas still limit OHV travel. A wilderness area, by its definition, does not allow roads. Most national park and forest service trails don’t even allow bicycles.

If there is OHV access, it’s cuz there’s established road access, and if there’s established road access, there’s a good chance yall have literally shat all over the place already.

Sure, certain secluded campsites and fishing holes totally can be more easily reached with OHVs. But then you’re dealing with transporting a trailer, not to mention the maintenance and storage and other costs that come with the big toys.

Not that I mean to discourage, but just ask what your end game is. If you want the thrill of hauling ass in an OHV of your own, go for it. Or if you have a particular somewhere in mind that you know it’s allowed and applicable.

But if you’re otherwise just looking for the best most secluded fishing spots and such to explore, I’d just as soon simply invest in a good pair of hiking boots.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:37 pm**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping

get a horse or a mule if your goin the rocky steeper routes.

you'll go places no OHV will go.

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:17 pm**

ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:16 pm
Not that I mean to discourage, but just ask what your end game is. If you want the thrill of hauling ass in an OHV of your own, go for it. Or if you have a particular somewhere in mind that you know it’s allowed and applicable.

But if you’re otherwise just looking for the best most secluded fishing spots and such to explore, I’d just as soon simply invest in a good pair of hiking boots.

Yeah, if you want a secluded spot you still have to get out and hike a mile or more in to get away from the crowds any more. But if the trailhead is a rough 4WD road just to get started, your chances go up even more.

I put a rack on the back of my Tacoma several years ago and got a rooftop tent from this place. It takes about 10 minutes to set up break down. If you can find a flat place to park you have a campsite. Because it sits up above the truck bed you can put coolers and gear bags underneath. It takes less than an hour to mount it on the truck and take it off. We rode out a storm with 50-60 mph winds near Cinnamon Pass one night and it came thru like a champ.

https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:15 pm**

OHV= any vehicle designed to go off road.

UTV= side by side

Off road vehicle= JEEP

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:49 pm**

Off the Road.....because it's broke down....

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am**

TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping
get a horse or a mule if your goin the rocky steeper routes.

you'll go places no OHV will go.

you know i’d get a horse (or two) in a heartbeat

the horse isn’t the issue. it’s suitable space and related costs. i’ve got issues with boarding and animal like that long-term. it’s back in Kansas, but i’ve already got all the tack and gear if/when the time comes

i could just wait, continue saving and buy a few acres (which i’d really like to do regardless)

but, as with a off-road vehicle, i’d also need a trailer

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:19 am**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:37 pm
KUTradition wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:50 pm i’m currently debating on an OHV/side-by-side

1) they all seem too damn loud

2) is an electric one even worth it, given where we’ll be taking it?

despite drawbacks, we’ve had to turn around a number of times because the mountain roads got too sketchy for our truck. it’d be nice to have that much more of the mountains opened up for exploring, fishing, and camping
get a horse or a mule if your goin the rocky steeper routes.

you'll go places no OHV will go.
you know i’d get a horse (or two) in a heartbeat

the horse isn’t the issue. it’s suitable space and related costs. i’ve got issues with boarding and animal like that long-term. it’s back in Kansas, but i’ve already got all the tack and gear if/when the time comes

i could just wait, continue saving and buy a few acres (which i’d really like to do regardless)

but, as with a off-road vehicle, i’d also need a trailer

yea, I think getting 2 or 3 of them again is in my future. My daughter is going to guarantee that....they are so damn expensive tho, all in all, even without boarding costs. Im gonna have to learn how to shoe to at least avoid that overpriced service. I've done it, but im no farrier. So time consuming too. But, great to have around if you actually use them.

maintenance, feed, shelter, trailer to haul, tack and gear...its all expensive anymore.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:52 am**

If only DC were here to tell youse two what a great investment horses are.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:41 am**

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:52 am If only DC were here to tell youse two what a great investment horses are.

I knew better but I was hopeful.
After I invested (in a "micro-share"), "my" horse won the Haskell Stakes, the Kentucky Derby, came in 2nd in the Preakness, and then won the Breeder's Cup Classic.
That earned ME about $10 - due to all these complex stipulations.

This (see link below) is where the money is to be made but it's a slooooooow process and hardly a sure thing in regards to my even making my investment back.

I became a grandfather.

https://myracehorse.com/app/singlefeed/ ... G_campaign

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:34 am**

TDub wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:19 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:37 pm

get a horse or a mule if your goin the rocky steeper routes.

you'll go places no OHV will go.
you know i’d get a horse (or two) in a heartbeat

the horse isn’t the issue. it’s suitable space and related costs. i’ve got issues with boarding and animal like that long-term. it’s back in Kansas, but i’ve already got all the tack and gear if/when the time comes

i could just wait, continue saving and buy a few acres (which i’d really like to do regardless)

but, as with a off-road vehicle, i’d also need a trailer
yea, I think getting 2 or 3 of them again is in my future. My daughter is going to guarantee that....they are so damn expensive tho, all in all, even without boarding costs. Im gonna have to learn how to shoe to at least avoid that overpriced service. I've done it, but im no farrier. So time consuming too. But, great to have around if you actually use them.

maintenance, feed, shelter, trailer to haul, tack and gear...its all expensive anymore.

we’re down to one now back in Kansas…Jodi, and she’s pushing 30 so can’t really be ridden any longer

my pops always complained about expense, be it grain or vet or whatever

they might just be the most expensive pets on the planet

…great to have around if you actually use them.

truer words have never been spoken

edit: if it were me, i’d make sure my kids were involved in 4-H or rodeo or something, if for no other reason than to try to ensure that the novelty doesn’t wear off

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:44 am**

KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:34 am
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:19 am
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:10 am
you know i’d get a horse (or two) in a heartbeat

the horse isn’t the issue. it’s suitable space and related costs. i’ve got issues with boarding and animal like that long-term. it’s back in Kansas, but i’ve already got all the tack and gear if/when the time comes

i could just wait, continue saving and buy a few acres (which i’d really like to do regardless)

but, as with a off-road vehicle, i’d also need a trailer
yea, I think getting 2 or 3 of them again is in my future. My daughter is going to guarantee that....they are so damn expensive tho, all in all, even without boarding costs. Im gonna have to learn how to shoe to at least avoid that overpriced service. I've done it, but im no farrier. So time consuming too. But, great to have around if you actually use them.

maintenance, feed, shelter, trailer to haul, tack and gear...its all expensive anymore.
we’re down to one now back in Kansas…Jodi, and she’s pushing 30 so can’t really be ridden any longer

my pops always complained about expense, be it grain or vet or whatever

they might just be the most expensive pets on the planet

…great to have around if you actually use them.

truer words have never been spoken

edit: if it were me, i’d make sure my kids were involved in 4-H or rodeo or something, if for no other reason than to try to ensure that the novelty doesn’t wear off

My daughter is big on horses. Does a horse camp every summer where they ride and learn to do the day to day care for them for a few weeks. In a few
years I think the lady who owns the stables will want her as one of the counselors. Magnificent animals.

Wish I knew more about how to care for them. It wouldn't be expensive for us to move 10min out of town and build a house on 10+ acres....but not sure we could stomach the other costs of having an animal like that.

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:17 pm**

Being rich is having money; being wealthy is having time

you’re either living to work, or working to live

Posted: **Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm**

Yep.

Wife and I are going to take the upcoming summer off. We figure we're at about the halfway point in life. Seems like a good time to take halftime and discuss how we're going to approach the second half. What plays do we keep running, what do we need to adjust, etc.

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