Kansas Crimson

His behavior - and specifically, his geography - has not been consistent with thinking the actual results will be close.

Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:06 pm Internal Polls are showing a Kamala surge that answers the question of why Trump has been shambling through the last week and already spouting lies about election fraud (not the stuff he does and is doing).

The Fenton report from the boots on the ground in Wisconsin says something is up.

What's that smell in the air?

Is it?

Naw, it can't be.....but just in case I hope the rubes have access to N95 masks.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:24 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:31 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:05 pm Pete is arguably one of the smartest and most capable in the picture.

To be clear, if/when someone like Mayor Pete is the nominee for president, I will take the under on the time it takes for the resident curmudgeons (you know who you are) to post “wish we had more choice of candidates because both of them are terrible”. No reasons why, no alternative choices, no specifics. Just double-hate.

If you are referring to me....
I would happily vote for Mayor Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg in this election over the two "terrible" choices in Kamala Devi Harris and Donald John Trump. I have posted in the past people who I would have preferred over Trump and Harris. Mayor Pete being one of them.

In the past I thought I had/have provided several if not many "reasons why "I feel (know) Trump and Harris are terrible choices.
If not, to appease you, I will list a few for each person right now.
Harris.
1. I am against her plan to hand out money like it's Halloween Candy - and my not getting shit - but will ultimately have my taxes jacked up to help pay for what I feel are her unnecessary handouts - that I feel will be terrible for our country's economy.
2. I feel she has no clue what to do about the Middle East. Heck, Israel basically gave her and Biden a huge fuck you this week and because of it, they killed the person who was one of their biggest enemies/threats.
3. I feel she has no clue what to do about Immigration.
I'll add that despite what Jeeper thinks, she proved what she is terrible during the Baier interview (maybe I should say interrogation?) and yet again showed she can't defend her faults/weaknesses/failures and isn't even good at deflecting.
Most importantly, her campaign has had so many highs and lows but to me, overall it's been pretty bad and I don't think she'll beat Trump because of it. I know people a lot smarter than me who are Dems and are very worried about her chances too.

Trump.
After just probably wasting my time listing a few things about Harris, do I really need to spend time listing things about him? Do you not think/know he is a terrible choice?
I'll do it if you really want me to. Let me know.

"No alternative choices"? Well, at this point there aren't many "alternative choices". Do you want me to list people such as Jill Stein, Cornell West, and Chase Oliver as "alternative choices"? Heck, are those 3 even still running? Well, I listed them. It's a big no thanks for/from me.
The best "alternative choice" for me.... Would probably have to be to choose not to vote for President.

1) What specific policy of Harris' makes you think that you "will ultimately have my taxes jacked up"? Are you making $400k+ a year or something? If so, tough shit.

2) No one in any country has had a clue what to do about the Middle East for more than a thousand years. Not sure why on earth that would be a strike against any specific Presidential candidate, Dem or GOP.

3) I think the immigration policies she has spoken of this election cycle are a good start and would result in progress. There is too much work to accomplish and too much money to spend to get it done in one election cycle but you have to start somewhere.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:07 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:24 pm

zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:31 pm

To be clear, if/when someone like Mayor Pete is the nominee for president, I will take the under on the time it takes for the resident curmudgeons (you know who you are) to post “wish we had more choice of candidates because both of them are terrible”. No reasons why, no alternative choices, no specifics. Just double-hate.

If you are referring to me....
I would happily vote for Mayor Peter Paul Montgomery Buttigieg in this election over the two "terrible" choices in Kamala Devi Harris and Donald John Trump. I have posted in the past people who I would have preferred over Trump and Harris. Mayor Pete being one of them.

In the past I thought I had/have provided several if not many "reasons why "I feel (know) Trump and Harris are terrible choices.
If not, to appease you, I will list a few for each person right now.
Harris.
1. I am against her plan to hand out money like it's Halloween Candy - and my not getting shit - but will ultimately have my taxes jacked up to help pay for what I feel are her unnecessary handouts - that I feel will be terrible for our country's economy.
2. I feel she has no clue what to do about the Middle East. Heck, Israel basically gave her and Biden a huge fuck you this week and because of it, they killed the person who was one of their biggest enemies/threats.
3. I feel she has no clue what to do about Immigration.
I'll add that despite what Jeeper thinks, she proved what she is terrible during the Baier interview (maybe I should say interrogation?) and yet again showed she can't defend her faults/weaknesses/failures and isn't even good at deflecting.
Most importantly, her campaign has had so many highs and lows but to me, overall it's been pretty bad and I don't think she'll beat Trump because of it. I know people a lot smarter than me who are Dems and are very worried about her chances too.

Trump.
After just probably wasting my time listing a few things about Harris, do I really need to spend time listing things about him? Do you not think/know he is a terrible choice?
I'll do it if you really want me to. Let me know.

"No alternative choices"? Well, at this point there aren't many "alternative choices". Do you want me to list people such as Jill Stein, Cornell West, and Chase Oliver as "alternative choices"? Heck, are those 3 even still running? Well, I listed them. It's a big no thanks for/from me.
The best "alternative choice" for me.... Would probably have to be to choose not to vote for President.

1) What specific policy of Harris' makes you think that you "will ultimately have my taxes jacked up"? Are you making $400k+ a year or something? If so, tough shit.

2) No one in any country has had a clue what to do about the Middle East for more than a thousand years. Not sure why on earth that would be a strike against any specific Presidential candidate, Dem or GOP.

3) I think the immigration policies she has spoken of this election cycle are a good start and would result in progress. There is too much work to accomplish and too much money to spend to get it done in one election cycle but you have to start somewhere.

Respectful response.....
1.
I'll probably be all over the place because I have multiple thoughts at the same time.
You are smarter than I am but let me help you to understand where I am coming from. It's more than just individual income taxes.
I have investments. Including in the company I work for.
Who do you think will pay for the corporate tax increases? Will they affect me? I have been told they will.
I happen to feel the all around tax increases will hurt me and others. If they help others, that's a big part of what America is about so I suppose I shouldn't bitch about it - but I don't like it.
Like I said in my earlier post, I am not in favor of some of the "hand outs" she is proposing.
Do I make 400K a year or something Well..... What I "make" in salary is NOT 400K a year but my finances are complicated, and I am not going to give you a definitive yes or no in regards to if what I "make" overall is 400K or something but if I were to answer yes in regards to my overall "income" then I got it, you say "tough shit" to me. Ok, well, in some ways it would be "tough shit" to/for me - and others I care for and about.
Like I said, I am an investor in the public company that I work for. Please tell me, I welcome you to tell me, should I want a stock buyback tax to quadruple? Would that help or hurt me as an employee and an investor?
In regards to me as an individual, it very well may fuck me in multiple ways. More than just salary and compensation based. Capital gains taxes, estate taxes, etc.
In regards to how generous I am (or am not) with my money, I would rather I get to decide what causes my money goes to that I feel are worthy of receiving than have the government decide to give my money to causes I don't feel are worthy. There will be less of my money going to those I feel are worthy and in need and more of my money going to those I feel are not worthy and in need. Maybe I deserve fault for feeling that way and being honest?
Sorry, but I also just don't beleive her "proposal" is going to be limited to those individuals making 400K or more throughout her Presidency. Many economists, a lot smarter than me, both Dems and Pubs, have found major faults with her proposals. Like most if not all tax proposals, there are positives and negatives. I'm just one of over 300+ million assholes living in this country. What's best for the majority may not be best for me. I get it and you happen to be right in saying "tough shit". What other choice do/would I have other than to leave the country?

2.
I mentioned a specific major strike against the Biden/Harris team in regards to the Middle East.
To be honest to a fault, I am just a sliver above being clueless. At this moment, I am less concerned with the Middle East than I am with a lot of other things, and for all I know, Harris may be better than Trump in regards to the turmoil. I feel you're basically correct in your assessment that non one has had a clue what to do but I do feel some people have had some solid ideas/plans.

3.
Well said. But.... Taking a shit, wiping her ass, and flushing the toilet, would be progress. I sincerely mean it when I say, I prefer her over Trump and I hope she is successful in putting a plan in to place and seeing it through to it's fruition but I'm yet to hear a solid plan from her. Then again, I fully admit I haven't made much of an effort to research her specifics. I'm just going by what I have heard her say and what little I have read.

There is no way that a candidate can verbally provide all of the details that you seem to be looking for on a topic when asked a question in an interview or when giving a stump speech. The only way you will get such level of detail is to research it as well as to research experts whose job it is to analyze her policy proposals. If you are this concerned then I'd recommend you do so.

She probably got a text.

I thought convicted felons could not vote

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:40 pm I thought convicted felons could not vote

"Trump was found guilty in New York, and New York allows felons to vote as long as they are not actually behind bars. The former president has not yet been sentenced and has already promised to appeal, which could keep him out of any potential prison sentence for months or even years, well beyond the November election."

Don't worry. Melania's vote offset Donald's.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:11 pm A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban...

Totally preventable, if the Republican Texas fascists like Gov Abbott hadn't decided they wanted to play doctor, instead of leaving it to people who actually have the patient's best interests at heart, and are not preoccupied with giving their cult leader a reach around every chance they get.

It would be nice to see Ted Cruz unemployed.

Biggest cunt in politics. Except, maybe Trump .

Or McConnell.

Or Graham.

Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:39 pm It would be nice to see Ted Cruz unemployed.

Biggest cunt in politics. Except, maybe Trump .

Or McConnell.

Or Graham.

Today In: Hold my beer, what about me!?, DeSantis!

This socially awkward, incompetent, fascitst pos is using his state's citizen's tax dollars to promote over a hundred million dollars in false and misleading propaganda against 2 amendments those same citizens worked to get on the ballot. SMFH

Millions in Florida taxpayer cash fuel DeSantis' ad war on pot, abortion amendments

Gov. Ron DeSantis is spending the election homestretch focused almost solely on two of the costliest ballot campaigns in the nation, throwing millions of dollars in taxpayer money and a flurry of questionable claims against legalizing marijuana and restoring abortion rights in Florida.

Groups spending on Amendment 3, which would allow recreational marijuana, and Amendment 4, expanding abortion access, have raised more than $225 million over the past two years, putting them at the top of more than 150 ballot proposals going before American voters Nov. 5.

TV, radio and digital platforms are ablaze in advertising in the campaign’s closing hours. The governor and First Lady Casey DeSantis are central players in the campaign endgame, making daily appearances over the past weeks trashing Amendments 3 and 4...

“No matter where you stand on this issue, this is still a democracy and in a democracy we do not spend taxpayer dollars in advance of a political issue,” said Republican state Sen. Joe Gruters of Sarasota, a former Florida Republican Party chair who supports Trump.

Gruters said he opposes the abortion rights measure but ridiculed the amendment spending by DeSantis as “propaganda.”

The Amendment 3 campaign estimates $50 million in taxpayer money has been spent by the governor against the measure, paying for 13,000 TV spots, 5,000 radio ads and more. The campaign said the public dollars going to DeSantis’ effort against abortion rights undoubtedly tops that figure.

...Still, the DeSantis administration is unmoved by criticism for directing taxpayer dollars against issues many of those same taxpayers helped get on the ballot.

"Critics say it’s inappropriate, it’s unusual to do that. I’d say it’s a responsibility the state has to educate individuals to know what they’re voting for," Lt. Gov. Jeanette Nunez said during a recent appearance in Clearwater.

The governor has spent virtually no time campaigning for Trump, U.S. Sen. Rick Scott, or other Florida Republicans on the ballot. Instead, DeSantis has been traveling the state, for example, with doctors opposed to Amendment 4 claiming a host of deficiencies...

the future protectors of American women?

trump, vance, and rfk?

such a fucking joke; we’re better than this (or at least should be)

Women voters have a chance to begin to deconstruct the white male patriarchy in our country. I hope they are successful.

In the age of MAGA, I didn't think I could be surprised any more but I have been STUNNED by the number of white men I have seen publicly state that they feel that it is the obligation of their wife to vote how the man wants them to vote and that going against them is akin to adultery. That is mind boggling.

My daughters will learn that any boyfriend who shares an opinion even remotely close to this should be an ex-boyfriend ASAP.

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:01 pm Women voters have a chance to begin to deconstruct the white male patriarchy in our country. I hope they are successful.

In the age of MAGA, I didn't think I could be surprised any more but I have been STUNNED by the number of white men I have seen publicly state that they feel that it is the obligation of their wife to vote how the man wants them to vote and that going against them is akin to adultery. That is mind boggling.

My daughters will learn that any boyfriend who shares an opinion even remotely close to this should be an ex-boyfriend ASAP.

In the big picture, we are certainly learning that some deep, deep ugliness that we'd naively convinced ourselves was in the past, was always lurking right below the surface.

The reconstruction period was managed by Grant at first, but the press harped on the ethical boundaries of his cabinet. Once the man who defeated the KKK was out of office, the master class of the south reascended and found slavery by other means that has been roiling for over a century. Racism was their motivator, not policy. They easily left the democratic party when it embraced civil rights. Beyond the southern strategy of racism, they found willing foils in evangelical Christians who were always led by people like Falwell interested in power and not Jesus. Jesus as a means to an end. They also convinced a lot of us that things we needed, like universal health care and a living wage, were "commie socialist" programs. Making many of us enemies of our own prosperity.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:10 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:01 pm Women voters have a chance to begin to deconstruct the white male patriarchy in our country. I hope they are successful.

In the age of MAGA, I didn't think I could be surprised any more but I have been STUNNED by the number of white men I have seen publicly state that they feel that it is the obligation of their wife to vote how the man wants them to vote and that going against them is akin to adultery. That is mind boggling.

My daughters will learn that any boyfriend who shares an opinion even remotely close to this should be an ex-boyfriend ASAP.

In the big picture, we are certainly learning that some deep, deep ugliness that we'd naively convinced ourselves was in the past, was always lurking right below the surface.

^^^

Wait, I'm confused, are you referring to the

a. Misogyny?
b. Racism?
c. Stupidity?
d. Willingness to fall for anything a pos pathological liar like Trump tells them, as long as he hates the same people they do?
e. All the above?