are we there yet?

[MICHHAWK]

the democrats should try to work in harmony with their counterparts. that is what the great unifier old joe would want.

[BiggDick]

I will say....if there is blame for the dems...and there is. The most damning indictment i see at the moment from the left is the inexplicable lack of action by elected officials. They appear to be politely following along with orders and just saying oh shucks....what can we do? Perhaps there are some nefarious thing happening behind the scenes to ensure they don't speak up to much...I dont know. But I am surprised at the lack of resistance from the only ones who can make a difference at the highest levels.

POTD

[defixione]

I will say....if there is blame for the dems...and there is. The most damning indictment i see at the moment from the left is the inexplicable lack of action by elected officials. They appear to be politely following along with orders and just saying oh shucks....what can we do? Perhaps there are some nefarious thing happening behind the scenes to ensure they don't speak up to much...I dont know. But I am surprised at the lack of resistance from the only ones who can make a difference at the highest levels.

POTD

I don't think TDubs post is saying what you think it's saying, BD.

[twocoach]

the democrats should try to work in harmony with their counterparts. that is what the great unifier old joe would want.

They always do, at least on the ideas that aren't unconstitutional lunacy.

[twocoach]

i’m torn

there’s a big part of me that thinks the ousdahls, psychos, randis, mich’s, and dodos of the country have a lesson to learn…and they NEED to learn it the hard way

If people can look at Trump's list of crimes, mismanagement and failures from his first administration and double down by voting him back into office then they are never going to learn. At this point, they are so entrenched in their MAGA ways that they'll never tuck tail and admit they were duped.

[BiggDick]

it's pretty funny how I'm lumped in with all the Magaheads, and we have some lesson we NEED to learn the hard way

I'm also thinking I think I need to ask defix what he thinks I think tdub's post is saying.

Seems pretty straightforward, but for that.

[jfish26]

the democrats should try to work in harmony with their counterparts. that is what the great unifier old joe would want.

They always do, at least on the ideas that aren't unconstitutional lunacy.

Their naive, unrequited good faith is the story of why we’re here.

[twocoach]

the democrats should try to work in harmony with their counterparts. that is what the great unifier old joe would want.

They always do, at least on the ideas that aren't unconstitutional lunacy.

Their naive, unrequited good faith is the story of why we’re here.

Well, I might put it a notch or two below the reason we're here but they certainly haven't done enough to resist Trump's lunacy the last 2 weeks.

[pdub]

Agree with twocoach.
Selfish and gullible people are much more a part of the story.
They were the ones who voted for their president.

[Shirley]

I will say....if there is blame for the dems...and there is. The most damning indictment i see at the moment from the left is the inexplicable lack of action by elected officials. They appear to be politely following along with orders and just saying oh shucks....what can we do? Perhaps there are some nefarious thing happening behind the scenes to ensure they don't speak up to much...I dont know. But I am surprised at the lack of resistance from the only ones who can make a difference at the highest levels.

I've seen and read number of Democrats coming out and speaking adamantly against what's happening.
They just aren't getting any major coverage for it.

i’m torn

there’s a big part of me that thinks the ousdahls, psychos, randis, mich’s, and dodos of the country have a lesson to learn…and they NEED to learn it the hard way

If people can look at Trump's list of crimes, mismanagement and failures from his first administration and double down by voting him back into office then they are never going to learn. At this point, they are so entrenched in their MAGA ways that they'll never tuck tail and admit they were duped.

Their naive, unrequited good faith is the story of why we’re here.

Agree with all of this.

There is widespread frustration among Dems that the MSM won't give their responses to Trump flooding the zone with shit any air time, because it doesn't hold the public's attention like him saying he's thinking about invading Panama, &/or Greenland, or suspending SNAP benefits, or forcing 10-20 million people to leave the country, or firing 2/3rds of federal employees, or etc., Etc., ETC., ETC, ECT!

And I think they have a very good point.

And while I agree 100% with jfish, that Dems have been too naive in expecting the Republicans to act in good faith for much too long, they're going to need a hell of a lot of luck to try and counter the tsunami of lies and lawlessness that Trump and Republicans, (along with their rich oligarchs who own much of the media), are planning to unleash on a relentless basis from now until the 2026 election, and again going into 2028.

I hope the opposition does better than I expect.

[BiggDick]

Ugh.

I’ll prob get shit for this too, but I’m just so damn afeared that the rich oligarchs who own much of the media about Trump and Republicans, maybe actually be the exact same rich oligarchs who own the media about Dems.

Ugh.

Let me just add, re: “Selfish and gullible people are much more a part of the story.
They were the ones who voted for their president”

When you get class grievance without class conscience, you get MAGA.

[KUTradition]

Democrats leave 'emergency' meeting vowing ‘street fight’ in response to Trump actions

[Shirley]

Ugh.

I’ll prob get shit for this too, but I’m just so damn afeared that the rich oligarchs who own much of the media about Trump and Republicans, maybe actually be the exact same rich oligarchs who own the media about Dems.

Ugh.

Let me just add, re: “Selfish and gullible people are much more a part of the story.
They were the ones who voted for their president”

When you get class grievance without class conscience, you get MAGA.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but it sounds like another of your "both sides" arguments.

So, if you don't, mind flesh it out, and provide your evidence/details.

tia

[TDub]

dammit Shirlley...you just unleashed 37 pages of rambling

[BiggDick]

Ugh.

I’ll prob get shit for this too, but I’m just so damn afeared that the rich oligarchs who own much of the media about Trump and Republicans, maybe actually be the exact same rich oligarchs who own the media about Dems.

Ugh.

Let me just add, re: “Selfish and gullible people are much more a part of the story.
They were the ones who voted for their president”

When you get class grievance without class conscience, you get MAGA.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but it sounds like another of your "both sides" arguments.

So, if you don't, mind flesh it out, and provide your evidence/details.

tia

I have provided evidence, or at least tried to.

But you won’t listen to me. I’m totally threatening to your views, right?

And in a big way, I don’t blame ya! After all, I’m an idiot. And after all, very few are willing, or able, to *actually* change their views.

But if you might listen to someone who is slightly less of an idiot, and someone to whom you’ve at least listened before:

Search this board for “hollowed-out carcasses.”

There’s not much use in discussing anything until or unless you do.

[Overlander]

Ugh.

I’ll prob get shit for this too, but I’m just so damn afeared that the rich oligarchs who own much of the media about Trump and Republicans, maybe actually be the exact same rich oligarchs who own the media about Dems.

Ugh.

Let me just add, re: “Selfish and gullible people are much more a part of the story.
They were the ones who voted for their president”

When you get class grievance without class conscience, you get MAGA.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but it sounds like another of your "both sides" arguments.

So, if you don't, mind flesh it out, and provide your evidence/details.

tia

There’s not much use in discussing anything until or unless you do.

Sound like a great place to just let this shit fucking die.

[pdub]

“I don’t like lemons. I’d like a water please.”
“Here’s your water with lemon sir.”
“I told you I don’t like lemons!!! This place is ridiculous! I’m going next door.”
“I don’t like lemons. I’d like a water please.”
“Here’s a cup full of freshly squeezed lemon juice sir.”

“Ugh you and the restaurant next door are exactly the same!”

[Shirley]

“I don’t like lemons. I’d like a water please.”
“Here’s your water with lemon sir.”
“I told you I don’t like lemons!!! This place is ridiculous! I’m going next door.”
“I don’t like lemons. I’d like a water please.”
“Here’s a cup full of freshly squeezed lemon juice sir.”

“Ugh you and the restaurant next door are exactly the same!”

^^^

/thread

[pdub]

More like:

/endpossibleousdahl12pagebothsidestangentinthisthread

[Shirley]

More like:

/endpossibleousdahl12pagebothsidestangentinthisthread

^^^

/threads