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Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:54 pm
by pdub
That's not a stat.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:06 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:37 pm Just saw this insane stat on twitter:

LeBron James has played against 35% of all the players who have ever played in NBA history.
Did he actually play against them or were some/many of them on NBA rosters when their teams faced each other and they didn't actually play in the game/s?

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:09 pm
by pdub
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:06 pm
twocoach wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:37 pm Just saw this insane stat on twitter:

LeBron James has played against 35% of all the players who have ever played in NBA history.
Did he actually play against them or were some/many of them on NBA rosters when their teams faced each other and they didn't actually play in the game/s?
I'm gathering that ( bigger benches, more teams ).

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:09 pm
by TDub
pdub wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:54 pmThat's not a stat.
absolutely its a stat

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:11 pm
by pdub
Proof and/or source?

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:18 pm
by KUTradition
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lake ... story/amp/

edit:

By 2020, StatHead has put the total number of players who have played at least one game in the NBA at around 4,500. Four seasons have passed since, so that number should now be closer to around 4,800. 35 percent of that amounts to about 1,680 players.

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-lebron- ... in-history#

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:27 pm
by TDub
pdub wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:11 pm Proof and/or source?
it's 2024 we dont need proof or sources...we just say things and that makes them true.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:38 am
by pdub
fare.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:38 am
by twocoach
pdub wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:11 pm Proof and/or source?
Here is some discussion about it.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/01/lebron ... nba-career

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:05 am
by KUTradition
it’s a “cool” factoid, but not all that unique

in one of the links i posted, Vince Carter was said to have “played” against 36% of all nba’ers

the unique thing, as most of these links point out, is that he (bronbron) continues to be a substantial contributor

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:12 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:05 am it’s a “cool” factoid, but not all that unique

in one of the links i posted, Vince Carter was said to have “played” against 36% of all nba’ers

the unique thing, as most of these links point out, is that he (bronbron) continues to be a substantial contributor
Carter is the only player in NBA history who has played more seasons than James so that doesn't exactly make it "not all that unique".

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:17 am
by KUTradition
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:12 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:05 am it’s a “cool” factoid, but not all that unique

in one of the links i posted, Vince Carter was said to have “played” against 36% of all nba’ers

the unique thing, as most of these links point out, is that he (bronbron) continues to be a substantial contributor
Carter is the only player in NBA history who has played more seasons than James so that doesn't exactly make it "not all that unique".
https://www.thesportster.com/nba-player ... t-careers/

all those guys had long careers

at what point does it become unique for you? 30%? 25%?

sorry, i just don’t see longevity, for some of the greatest athletes in the world (and in a minimal contact sport, and with world-class training and nutrition) to be all that special in and of itself

as i alluded to, it’s the continued production that, at least to me, is most noteworthy

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:22 am
by twocoach
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:17 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:12 am
KUTradition wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:05 am it’s a “cool” factoid, but not all that unique

in one of the links i posted, Vince Carter was said to have “played” against 36% of all nba’ers

the unique thing, as most of these links point out, is that he (bronbron) continues to be a substantial contributor
Carter is the only player in NBA history who has played more seasons than James so that doesn't exactly make it "not all that unique".
https://www.thesportster.com/nba-player ... t-careers/

all those guys had long careers

at what point does it become unique for you? 30%? 25%?

sorry, i just don’t see longevity, for some of the greatest athletes in the world (and in a minimal contact sport, and with world-class training and nutrition) to be all that special in and of itself

as i alluded to, it’s the continued production that, at least to me, is most noteworthy
It's unique, not special. I am not attempting to elevate him in some GOAT conversation because of it. It's just a weird fact, that's all. I just found it to be interesting when I saw it, sheesh.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
by pdub
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:38 am
pdub wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:11 pm Proof and/or source?
Here is some discussion about it.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/01/lebron ... nba-career
I meant tdub's 'stats', not yours.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:53 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
pdub wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:38 am
pdub wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:11 pm Proof and/or source?
Here is some discussion about it.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/01/lebron ... nba-career
I meant tdub's 'stats', not yours.
Here's my stats and "proof"! 580,000 flops!

https://babylonbee.com/news/lebron-jame ... ing-record

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:56 am
by KUTradition
lmao

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:16 pm
by dolomite
The Big Dipper was the coolest imo and one of the reasons I chose KU. So many interesting facts about him. He had fun during the off season, like water skiing in the Caribbean. Does anyone really think someone will score more than 100 points in an NBA game?

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:31 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
dolomite wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:16 pm The Big Dipper was the coolest imo and one of the reasons I chose KU. So many interesting facts about him. He had fun during the off season, like water skiing in the Caribbean. Does anyone really think someone will score more than 100 points in a game?
NBA game? Probably not. Now watch it happen in the next week.

Meanwhile, my bet is no one scores more than 272 in a HS game.

https://www.sports-king.com/mats-wermel ... ball-3523/

Jack Taylor scored 138 in a college game. His team won 179-104.

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:42 pm
by randylahey
LeBrons career of flopping makes it hard to give him GOAT status

Re: Who is the GOAT

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:04 pm
by pdub
I know its kind of arbitrary but for me, he needs another NBA title and NBA Finals MVP.
That would lock it in for me, personally.
A title short of Jordan but with a ton of title appearances and the all time leader in points plus all the rebounds and assists records...in a league that was ( yes, absolutely, and if you disagree than any argument against the above with me is immediately moot ) a more talented league than Jordans?
That's the kicker.

And yes, I watched Jordan play, everyone calm down.