Re: 2024
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:27 pm
^^^
The mere mention can render me anorgasmic, for months.
As Loretta Lynn would say, "if he was a better man I might".DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:04 pmIt's not my fault you never learned to self-edit. "Rapist" would have been a perfectly accurate description. But...as is the wont of the polemicist, you added words that both diluted your statement and challenged its accuracy.japhy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:31 pmSatan is not the devil, he is a fallen angel.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:04 pm
That is a legally inaccurate description, FTR. He's grotesque, to be sure, and violent and depraved and all the rest. But he is not a convicted rapist.
Besides, you would pay good money to watch "the daughters" deal with Trump -- assuming he could catch them.
And kicking the ass of a degenerate con man really isn't going to do any good for my daughters or yours.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald- ... dge-2023-7
Save your but, but, but, technicalities for someone who deserves those efforts. We both know that trump deserves every slur anyone throws at him and some prison time to boot.
Do better.
For almost three years now, Republicans have defended or embraced Donald Trump’s authoritarianism — from lies about his 2020 loss to inciting an insurrection — which backfired as Americans proved unexpectedly eager to vote in defense of democracy in the 2022 elections as well as in contests this year.
But Republicans aren’t giving up — they’re going even further. To an unappreciated degree, they have responded to these electoral losses with even more flagrantly anti-democratic maneuvers all around the country.
The pattern is becoming clear: Even as voters are mobilizing to protect democracy at the ballot box, Republicans are redoubling their commitment to the former president’s anti-majoritarian mode of politics. And this, in turn, is motivating voters even more.
Call it the “MAGA doom loop.” It’s playing out in state after state.
[...]
Despite President Biden’s unpopularity, recent Times polling shows his surprising resilience in swing states — and Cohn suggests this partly reflects backlash against MAGA-fied state parties in these places. By embracing Trump’s efforts to nullify his loss, they are only reminding voters that democracy is once again in peril, including whether their own votes will be counted next time.
All of this syncs up with what political science tells us: Issues become salient for voters when elites talk about them a lot. That has certainly been the case with democracy and that will surely continue next year. Big events — such as Trump’s prosecution for Jan. 6, 2021-related offenses and the GOP’s continued devotion despite those criminal charges — will only reinforce what’s at stake.
“As long as the MAGA-Trump faction remains a threat to free and fair elections, a consequential slice of the electorate will continue to vote on this issue,” political scientist Lee Drutman told me.
If there’s a silver lining, it’s that the MAGA doom loop might keep on working its magic — all the way through 2024.
^^^jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:28 am This is consistent with how I've been seeing all of this play out.
Opinion | How the ‘MAGA doom loop’ is already threatening Trump’s 2024 chances
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... wisconsin/
For almost three years now, Republicans have defended or embraced Donald Trump’s authoritarianism — from lies about his 2020 loss to inciting an insurrection — which backfired as Americans proved unexpectedly eager to vote in defense of democracy in the 2022 elections as well as in contests this year.
But Republicans aren’t giving up — they’re going even further. To an unappreciated degree, they have responded to these electoral losses with even more flagrantly anti-democratic maneuvers all around the country.
The pattern is becoming clear: Even as voters are mobilizing to protect democracy at the ballot box, Republicans are redoubling their commitment to the former president’s anti-majoritarian mode of politics. And this, in turn, is motivating voters even more.
Call it the “MAGA doom loop.” It’s playing out in state after state.
[...]
Despite President Biden’s unpopularity, recent Times polling shows his surprising resilience in swing states — and Cohn suggests this partly reflects backlash against MAGA-fied state parties in these places. By embracing Trump’s efforts to nullify his loss, they are only reminding voters that democracy is once again in peril, including whether their own votes will be counted next time.
All of this syncs up with what political science tells us: Issues become salient for voters when elites talk about them a lot. That has certainly been the case with democracy and that will surely continue next year. Big events — such as Trump’s prosecution for Jan. 6, 2021-related offenses and the GOP’s continued devotion despite those criminal charges — will only reinforce what’s at stake.
“As long as the MAGA-Trump faction remains a threat to free and fair elections, a consequential slice of the electorate will continue to vote on this issue,” political scientist Lee Drutman told me.
If there’s a silver lining, it’s that the MAGA doom loop might keep on working its magic — all the way through 2024.
Which, to me, makes the madness of the party sticking with Trump all the, ah, starker-and-ravinger.Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:41 am^^^jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:28 am This is consistent with how I've been seeing all of this play out.
Opinion | How the ‘MAGA doom loop’ is already threatening Trump’s 2024 chances
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... wisconsin/
For almost three years now, Republicans have defended or embraced Donald Trump’s authoritarianism — from lies about his 2020 loss to inciting an insurrection — which backfired as Americans proved unexpectedly eager to vote in defense of democracy in the 2022 elections as well as in contests this year.
But Republicans aren’t giving up — they’re going even further. To an unappreciated degree, they have responded to these electoral losses with even more flagrantly anti-democratic maneuvers all around the country.
The pattern is becoming clear: Even as voters are mobilizing to protect democracy at the ballot box, Republicans are redoubling their commitment to the former president’s anti-majoritarian mode of politics. And this, in turn, is motivating voters even more.
Call it the “MAGA doom loop.” It’s playing out in state after state.
[...]
Despite President Biden’s unpopularity, recent Times polling shows his surprising resilience in swing states — and Cohn suggests this partly reflects backlash against MAGA-fied state parties in these places. By embracing Trump’s efforts to nullify his loss, they are only reminding voters that democracy is once again in peril, including whether their own votes will be counted next time.
All of this syncs up with what political science tells us: Issues become salient for voters when elites talk about them a lot. That has certainly been the case with democracy and that will surely continue next year. Big events — such as Trump’s prosecution for Jan. 6, 2021-related offenses and the GOP’s continued devotion despite those criminal charges — will only reinforce what’s at stake.
“As long as the MAGA-Trump faction remains a threat to free and fair elections, a consequential slice of the electorate will continue to vote on this issue,” political scientist Lee Drutman told me.
If there’s a silver lining, it’s that the MAGA doom loop might keep on working its magic — all the way through 2024.
Read that yesterday, and hope he's right.
Unfuckingbelieveable
He's unfit.jfish26 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:21 pm For the file (this is Trump mixing up Obama with Biden and seeming to forget there’s already been a WWII).
https://twitter.com/joenbc/status/17030 ... q_-8Yt1KMA
I do not view this as disqualifying or even, in and of itself, a very big deal. But here in this thread, there are those who point to gaffes like this as evidence of unfitness.