Kansas Crimson

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:39 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:07 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm

If you chase me and hit me in the head with a skateboard, I will assume that you are trying to kill me. If you run at me with a handgun drawn and pointed at me, I will assume you are trying to kill me.

No. Grosskreutz did.

Ok, but in one of your previous posts you stated it was the "deceased" who tried to kill him. Grosskreutz is NOT deceased.
Rosenbaum is deceased but even Rittenhouse couldn't prove that Rosenbaum "tried to kill him".
Now tell us why you feel Huber wasn't acting in self defense and why it was OK for Rittenhouse to shoot and kill Huber but not ok for Huber to try and "kill" Rittenhouse.
I'm trying to think of a respectful way to say this. I'll simply say our exchange has pretty much proven your ignorance on the subject.

Overlander wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:51 pm Psych (and his type) are ready to call this maggot a hero because he actually got to do something that they, deep inside, wish they could get away with

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:58 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:42 pm

The deceased.

They did? You sure about that? I could be wrong but I don't believe that was said in court in regards to Rosenbaum. Maybe it was?
AS far as Huber, he MAY have tried to kill Rittenhouse AFTER Rittenhouse shot someone but we didn't get to hear his side of the story in court. Did we?
Perhaps Huber felt if he didn't stop Rittenhouse he may have shot other people - who were or were NOT "trying to kill him". The FACT is we will never know.

If you chase me and hit me in the head with a skateboard, I will assume that you are trying to kill me. If you run at me with a handgun drawn and pointed at me, I will assume you are trying to kill me.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:17 am I know psych already has his mind made up, but it’s wild that the duty is not on folks to refrain from bringing assault rifles to a protest; but on everyone else to not rub the guy with the assault rifle the wrong way.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:13 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:58 pm

They did? You sure about that? I could be wrong but I don't believe that was said in court in regards to Rosenbaum. Maybe it was?
AS far as Huber, he MAY have tried to kill Rittenhouse AFTER Rittenhouse shot someone but we didn't get to hear his side of the story in court. Did we?
Perhaps Huber felt if he didn't stop Rittenhouse he may have shot other people - who were or were NOT "trying to kill him". The FACT is we will never know.

If you chase me and hit me in the head with a skateboard, I will assume that you are trying to kill me. If you run at me with a handgun drawn and pointed at me, I will assume you are trying to kill me.

If you are running from the scene of just shooting someone in the back, you might want to consider that that has something to do with why others are chasing you and trying to stop you. Do what you feel everyone who gets killed by a law enforcement should do and just stop being confrontational, do not resist efforts to detain you, put any weapon you are in possession of on the ground and comply.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:43 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:17 am I know psych already has his mind made up, but it’s wild that the duty is not on folks to refrain from bringing assault rifles to a protest; but on everyone else to not rub the guy with the assault rifle the wrong way.

Perhaps the duty is on those protesting to do so without looting, burning, destroying property, and making others feel unsafe. Once you start doing that, you invite people showing up with assault rifles. It's pretty simple.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:48 am If you’re concerned about making others feel unsafe, why are you cool with letting kids run around playing with assault rifles?

And do you really think property is more valuable than human lives?

And this response is telling: “you invite people showing up with assault rifles.” You almost make it sound like Kyle went there looking for trouble.

Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:47 am Girls who wear skimpy clothes deserve to be raped - that's basically what you're saying, right?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:48 am If you’re concerned about making others feel unsafe, why are you cool with letting kids run around playing with assault rifles?

And do you really think property is more valuable than human lives?

And this response is telling: “you invite people showing up with assault rifles.” You almost make it sound like Kyle went there looking for trouble.

He went there to defend property which should not have been under threat in the first place.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:45 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:13 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm

If you chase me and hit me in the head with a skateboard, I will assume that you are trying to kill me. If you run at me with a handgun drawn and pointed at me, I will assume you are trying to kill me.

If you are running from the scene of just shooting someone in the back, you might want to consider that that has something to do with why others are chasing you and trying to stop you. Do what you feel everyone who gets killed by a law enforcement should do and just stop being confrontational, do not resist efforts to detain you, put any weapon you are in possession of on the ground and comply.

I think when people are yelling threats and urging each other to crush your skull, you may feel the need to defend yourself.

When they go so far as to hit you with large, hard objects in the head, you may feel the need to defend yourself.

When they have been following you around letting you know that they are going to harm you bodily, you may feel the need to defend yourself.

When someone runs at you with a handgun and is pointing it at you, you may feel the need to defend yourself.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:48 am If you’re concerned about making others feel unsafe, why are you cool with letting kids run around playing with assault rifles?

And do you really think property is more valuable than human lives?

And this response is telling: “you invite people showing up with assault rifles.” You almost make it sound like Kyle went there looking for trouble.

You keep creating a false dichotomy with your human lives vs. private property question. Both are important, and neither should be endangered. The only people who don't care about property being destroyed are those who either a) own nothing of value and/or b) are not the owners of the property being destroyed.

He went there to defend property which should not have been under threat in the first place. Being upset and outraged is not justification for wanton destruction of property that does not belong to you.