Kansas Crimson

japhy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:45 am Having been a Chiefs fan for 50 years, I have some long term perspective.

We have hosted the AFC Championship game for 5 years running now and been to three Super Bowls in that time. Best run of any sports team in KC during my tenure. This year we will likely have to win a playoff game on the road. We have what seems to be one of the better Chief's defensive groups of this run. In a couple of weeks they start playing for the trophy. Every team will be one injury away from the end of their season. We have the only QB who I ever saw win a SB while hopping around on one leg. The playoffs might be even more fun to watch this year. little dave showed up in his big boy pants for the 2022 NCAA Tourney so anything can happen.

All that said, if Moore and Toney don't come back next year I won't be sad.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:23 pm If Buffalo takes care of it's two cupcakes, they could be looking at winning the AFC East in the last game in Miami. The Dolphins have DAL, BAL and BUF to end the season.

Sorry Bengals and Colts but I'd very much like for you to be our opening opponent...even with Jake Browning emerging...over the Dolphins or Bills.

Hopefully the Bills and Dolphins occupy that 3rd seed and that 5th or 6th seed and neither of them drop to be the 7th. ( and ideally we also avoid the Browns because I think a dominant defense could really disrupt us )

I know we'd have to beat them twice but the most realistic scenario i'd want is the Bengals as the 7 vs us as the 2. They've lost Burrow and Jamar Chase and we could get an easier path to both winning the first game and evening out that Bengals vs Mahomes record.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:09 pm Isn't this a possible scenario where Miami gets the 7?

Baltimore wins 2 of 3. 1 seed.
Chiefs win out. 2 seed.
Bills win 3 in a row - Bills 11-6. 3 seed.
Jacksonville wins out - Jags 11-6. 4 seed.

Browns win 2 of 3 ( @ Texans, v Jets ) - Browns 11-6. 5 seed.
Colts win 3 in a row - ( @ Falcons, v Raiders, v Texans ). 11-6. 6 seed.
Miami looses 3 in a row - Miami 10-7. 7 seed.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:16 pm Give me Cincy down Burrow and Chase as the 7 over the surging Bills or the Myles Garrett led Browns.
Minshew and the Colts would be my next in line.

Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:25 am Fundamentals. Complete the catch. Secure. Run. New WR coach. Not running routes correctly or catching the ball, new player or not, is on coaching.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:26 am He most certainly won’t get it—he won’t even be top 5 in voting—but there’s argument for Patrick Mahomes deserving MVP depending on how you interpret it.

Stats wise, he's probably not there BUT:

The average number of drops in the league is 15. KC has 26 drops.
So let's take away 11 of those.
We will also take away 2 of those very memorable drops from very easy catches that led to INT's by Toney.
And we'll add 2 of those very memorable drops by MVS and Skyy Moore as TD's.

So using Mahomes average, he'd have 3,780 yards passing, but one of those drops was a 60 yard bomb perfectly in MVS's hands, so we'll bump that up another 53 yards.

3,833 passing yards, 2nd in the NFL.
He'd have a 69.5% completion percentage, 3rd in the NFL for players with over 150 completions.
He'd have 27 TD's, 2nd in the NFL.
He'd still have 11 INT's which is not great.
And he'd have his 334 rushing yards which is 5th in the NFL.

He already leads all QBs in total yards but would now lead 2nd place Tua by almost 200 yards. So 1st in total yards.

And this is with modest changes because a number of those drops were more than 7 yards.

Depending on how he plays against Vegas, Cincy and the Chargers, you could reasonably see with those 11 fewer drops how he could have finished 1st in TDs ( 2 behind Purdy currently ), top 3 in completion %, with the most passing yards and most total yards.

And finally, as mentioned before, there have been many moments where our WR's could have had catches that likely would have changed the game in our favor...so in this hypothetical, let's say the Chiefs are 10-4 with a path to clinching the AFC 1 seed.

His skill players are completely failing him.
Without him this team might be fighting for a top 5 pick.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:49 amI'd vote McCaffrey.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:15 am

Sparko wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:25 am Fundamentals. Complete the catch. Secure. Run. New WR coach. Not running routes correctly or catching the ball, new player or not, is on coaching.

Maybe in high school or even college. In the NFL, they are grown ass professional adults and should be expected to do the fundamentals of the job they are paid a very lucrative salary to perform. It's hard to imagine a WR making millions per year giving a ton of attention to some random WR coach making a few hundred thousand a year.